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Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski calls on President Trump to resign, questions her future as a Republican
“I want him out. He has caused enough damage,” Alaska’s senior senator said in an interview Friday from her office in the U.S. Capitol.
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Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski calls on President Trump to resign, questions her future as a Republican
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She had the opportunity to vote in favor of removal last year and she did not, despite knowing that her vote wouldn't make a difference.
Empty words from a coward.
Empty words from a coward.
I guarantee you Romney is thinking the exact same thing. The dude was PISSED at what transpired and watching his party still defend Trump afterwards.
lol the same day people start really talking about her seat maybe being in danger in 2022
hm weird 🤔
hm weird 🤔
Shit or get off the pot.
You have maybe days, if not hours to get away unscathed.
Besides, you did it once but deemed fit to get back in...
You have maybe days, if not hours to get away unscathed.
Besides, you did it once but deemed fit to get back in...
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Basically she don't really go through the GOP primary to be elected. She can become a Manchin like senator without having to became a Democrat.
Republicans in disarray, the media will have a hard time with this one... you love to see it in any case.
Murkowski as a Democrat or Dem-leaning independent would be interesting. Even if she was right there with Manchin or to his right a little bit, would be a strategic victory for Dems. She's probably just putting pressure on her party honestly but she won as a write-in and Alaska is a weird state, so who knows?
Murkowski as a Democrat or Dem-leaning independent would be interesting. Even if she was right there with Manchin or to his right a little bit, would be a strategic victory for Dems. She's probably just putting pressure on her party honestly but she won as a write-in and Alaska is a weird state, so who knows?
She'll go independent, not Democrat, and she'll overwhelmingly caucus with Republicans.
She'll be a worse Joe Liebermann or Manchin.
It's good to see the fracturing, but I've seen this song and dance before and every time the party simply rallies and goes back to tacitly endorsing and advancing the most extremist elements of their party for political expediency. You might get a couple moments like this, but the Republican Party was supposed to be dead in 2008.
She'll be a worse Joe Liebermann or Manchin.
It's good to see the fracturing, but I've seen this song and dance before and every time the party simply rallies and goes back to tacitly endorsing and advancing the most extremist elements of their party for political expediency. You might get a couple moments like this, but the Republican Party was supposed to be dead in 2008.
Murkow is definitely worse than Manchin. Whole other world. But maybe with the McConnell leash off she might be beneficial for one or two things.
Reposting my thoughts from the other thread:
World is a lot easier if WV and AK are going to have to underbid each other for who needs the least pork to sign off on any given bill. A few committee assignments for Murkowski seems like a small price to pay for that convenience.
Romney's a really different game from Murkowski. He's genuinely extremely conservative. Murkowski is more moderate, has a situation where her primary structure encourages going for Dem voters, and is extremely open to the sort of bribe-me-with-pork deals that Dems would be happy to give her. She also doesn't seem to have the personal animosity towards Dems (and Dems towards her) that Collins has. She's never been the target of the sort of raw liberal disdain that Collins has.
Now that Dems have the majority locked, she actually has pretty strong incentive to caucus Dem in order to get committee chairmanships. She's run as an independent, caucus as Dem
World is a lot easier if WV and AK are going to have to underbid each other for who needs the least pork to sign off on any given bill. A few committee assignments for Murkowski seems like a small price to pay for that convenience.
Romney's a really different game from Murkowski. He's genuinely extremely conservative. Murkowski is more moderate, has a situation where her primary structure encourages going for Dem voters, and is extremely open to the sort of bribe-me-with-pork deals that Dems would be happy to give her. She also doesn't seem to have the personal animosity towards Dems (and Dems towards her) that Collins has. She's never been the target of the sort of raw liberal disdain that Collins has.
Now that Dems have the majority locked, she actually has pretty strong incentive to caucus Dem in order to get committee chairmanships. She's run as an independent, caucus as Dem
Independent that caucuses with GOP at best. But still, GOP that actually have the balls to stand up to trump (however many years too late) is only a good thing.
Wow, she's actually more than slightly concerned this time. That's progress.
I'm still fully expecting she'll fall in line like all the rest of them, but the fact she's willing to even go that far out on a limb instead of licking Trump's feet like everyone else shows just how far the GOP has fallen even in the last few years.
I'm still fully expecting she'll fall in line like all the rest of them, but the fact she's willing to even go that far out on a limb instead of licking Trump's feet like everyone else shows just how far the GOP has fallen even in the last few years.
Didn't she already do that? This would presumably be a step further.
Romney will never leave the Republican party. He wants the Reagan/Bush GOP back. That isn't going to happen anytime soon, if ever, but he probably can't admit that to himself.
I could totally see Murkowski switching. I don't think it'll happen but I think there's a possibility.
I cannot see the 2012 Republican presidential nominee switching no matter how mad he gets. I think he'd just retire.
Well I wouldn't say Romney is "EXTREMELY" conservative. For example, as governor of Massachusetts, he invested in renewable energy, supported a cap-and-trade initiative, imposed strict emissions standards, believes in human-caused climate change, proposed and signed into law near-universal health care coverage for Massachusetts, believes we should raise the minimum wage, approves large stimulus packages, approves strong safety nets for unemployed, etc.
Like I get that he's sided with the Republicans in a lot of legislation to preserve the majority. But he's not a dyed-in-the-wool conservative bastard who wants to fuck over poor people like Ted Cruz or Josh Hawley. He could be somewhat equivalent to Manchin.
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The incentive for her to switch is that she could be appointed the committee head of something with the dems and that she could strip off some pork for Alaska to get her vote.
But, yeah, seriously doubt it.
Could Murkowski become an independent?
Asked whether she intends to remain a Republican, Murkowski said that depends on the party itself.
"Well, you know, there's a lot of people who actually thought that I did that in 2010, think that I became an independent. I didn't have any reason to leave my party in 2010. I was a Republican who ran a write-in campaign and I was successful. But I will tell you, if the Republican Party has become nothing more than the party of Trump, I sincerely question whether this is the party for me," she said.
So she can label herself a democrat and vote against dem bills? No thanks. Too little too late.
Haha all of these Republicans and Conservative media getting ready to pivot back to how they were shitting on Trump pre-2016 election just makes me laugh.
Nah, you sold your souls, we've seen the contract. Too late to grow a moral compass when he is getting booted.
Nah, you sold your souls, we've seen the contract. Too late to grow a moral compass when he is getting booted.
How would this even work though? Wouldn't a senior Democrat that has been a part of or caucusing with the party a lot longer have to be passed over for that to work?
I see she did not mention if she'd vote for his removal. So, just empty words, like all the other holier than thou Republicans.
We shouldn't court those fools. If the past 4 years didn't make them leave the party or at least vocalize opposition to Trump, then these past few days don't change anything.
Focus on our base, do what they want so they turn out in the next elections, not cut deals with spineless idiots who will stab us in the back in a couple of weeks.
We shouldn't court those fools. If the past 4 years didn't make them leave the party or at least vocalize opposition to Trump, then these past few days don't change anything.
Focus on our base, do what they want so they turn out in the next elections, not cut deals with spineless idiots who will stab us in the back in a couple of weeks.
It would, leadership might view it as worth it to have another fall-through Senator for votes and for the optics of the Republican party falling apart. And there are plenty of low-impact committees.
Romney is also 73 years old and is considering retiring at the end of his term if he can get some legislation passed. That's more of an incentive to switch than someone young who has their whole political career ahead of them.
Hopefully she puts her money where her mouth is when it's her time to vote to remove Trump, unlike last time. Say what you want about Mitt, but it did take guts to be the only Republican to vote your party's president to be removed from office. You can't put a bigger target on your back than that.
Romney was governor of an extremely liberal state, and Romneycare was crafted to be a conservative response to liberal demands for government provision of healthcare. Hell, it was originally a Heritage Foondation proposal. It's only that it worked pretty well and liberals accepted it and ran on it that turned it to something anathema to conservatives. Plus, he doesn't have Massachusetts pulling him left anymore.
He's been a liberal ally on rule of law stuff in the Trump era, but on tax and spend stuff he's really conservative, and not really amenable to the sort of deal making that Murkowski is because he really is more ideological. I wouldn't really count on him for anything more than voting yes on appointment nominees out of courtesy.