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TheMadTitan

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Oct 27, 2017
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Their logic and reasoning must be surrounded by a non-permeable membrane that prevents their thoughts from passing through before reaching their mouths.
 

skillzilla81

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Oct 25, 2017
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Reminder that every single one of these rscists were mad at Kaepernick for taking a knee in silent protest.
 

Mr. Poolman

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Oct 27, 2017
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This man had the option of defending Hitler or not defending Hitler.
And somehow he still took the worst possible option.
 

julian

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Oct 27, 2017
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So if Hitler was just over-reacting out of fear of being overtaken by Jews....but you're being treated like the Jews...then is the quarantine your fault?
 

L Thammy

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Approaching this seriously rather than with sheer incredulousness. Since we've been taught over the past couple of decades to view racists are synonymous with evil, there has been a large effort to try to make the definition of a racist more and more restrictive, to the point that it describes a mythological creature that we can all agree is bad but can no longer agree even exists. That way, people can keep getting cheap lip service points for saying that racism is bad while also actively making efforts to preserve the white supremacy that enables political hegemony.

If you can pull the definite back so far that even Hitler - basically a shorthand for racism at this point - isn't a racist because he's got some explanation, then the word has now lost all meaning. You can wear a white hood with a death's head, screaming racial epithets and waving the confederate flag with your swastika tattooed arm, and no one can all you a racist anymore because if even Hitler isn't a racist because he isn't an unthinking monster that's totally evil down to their very soul, surely neither are you.
 
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Chirotera

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Oct 27, 2017
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Modern conservatism doesn't even try to hide its bigotry anymore. What are the chances this idiot will face any consequences for his shit take to end all shit takes?
 

Ashlette

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Oct 28, 2017
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The Holocaust means nothing to people like him.
"I certainly have no ill will toward the Jewish nation and the Jewish people in our country," he said.
If you need to explicitly say this, at all, then you really messed up somewhere in life.
 

captainmal01

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Oct 28, 2017
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Vance (republican representative) said she wants "to stay away from either condoning or condemning anything he said about (the Holocaust)" but said she agrees with his concerns about government overreach during the pandemic.

"Some fear the virus and some fear the overreach, and I think we need to be sensitive to both," Vance said.

Stanning for a goddamn holocaust apologist, party above principles every time.
 

wisdom0wl

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Oct 26, 2017
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Hitler... wasn't a white supremacist????

American education is an absolute failure outside of like 4 states. What the flying fuck
 

deathkiller

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Apr 11, 2018
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Hitler... wasn't a white supremacist????

American education is an absolute failure outside of like 4 states. What the flying fuck
Technically he wasn't a "white" supremacist since he considered the Slav subhuman and they are as "white" as it gets. But just because the white supremacists have a less narrow definition of their "race" they aren't any better than Nazis.
 

Majukun

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Oct 27, 2017
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User Banned (Permanent): Being pedantic about Hitler's status as a white supremacist; prior severe ban for excusing blackface.
yes, sick people indeed tend to get rounded up and taken somewhere, to an hospital, to try save their lifes...you know, like hitler and his concentration camps..oh wait.

Hitler wasn't a white supremacist? He literally coined the term "Master Race" and practiced eugenics.
he was more of an aryan supremacist than a white supremacist, everyone was inferion to the aryan race, even other white skinned races
 

weekev

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Oct 25, 2017
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Just like a concentration camp. What the actual fuck is wrong with these people.
 

Majukun

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Oct 27, 2017
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"actually it's hebephilia not pedophilia"
well, there's a reason why we have two distinct terms for that too (tbh i had to wiki what hebephilia even is)

nobody said he was not a race supremacist, just that he didn't preach the superiority of the white race in general, but of a very precise ethnic group (if you can call it that since i don't remember if the aryan race was already a recognized distinct ethnic group or he made it up)
 

hjort

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Stating what this fucker deserves would get me banned. Fuck every single fascist heartbeat in this world.
 

Deleted member 12790

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well, there's a reason why we have two distinct terms for that too (tbh i had to wiki what hebephilia even is)

nobody said he was not a race supremacist, just that he didn't preach the superiority of the white race in general, but of a very precise ethnic group (if you can call it that since i don't remember if the aryan race was already a recognized distinct ethnic group or he made it up)

Nobody cares about this meaningless distinction.
 

Razmos

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Oct 28, 2017
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He'll probably end up as president one day going by the state of the world right now
 

L Thammy

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if you can call it that since i don't remember if the aryan race was already a recognized distinct ethnic group or he made it up
He didn't really make it up so much he appropriated it. "Aryan" is a Sanskrit word meaning "noble"; it came to be used as a cultural identifier in northern India and Persia.

The Nazis promoted theories that essentially held that North Germanic people were superior in that they were somehow more pure Aryan than others. It's a little like how lost continent conspiracy theories essentially serve to give white people credit for stuff like the Pyramids because all of them were created by a superior ancestor rates which whites are inevitably most linked to.
 

Deleted member 12790

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A distinction that directly caused millions of deaths is far from meaningless.

the distinction between white supremacist and aryan supremacist did not directly cause "millions of deaths."

and defending the notion that hitler wasn't a white supremacist because his concept of aryanism is just merely a subset of white people is fucking meaningless, grow the hell up
 

L Thammy

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Oct 25, 2017
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A distinction that directly caused millions of deaths is far from meaningless.
It isn't meaningless, but it is arbitrary, as is whiteness in general. The concept of the superiority of the "white race" and the concept of the superiority of the "Aryan race" are just different words serving the exact same function; the perpetuation of the hegemony of particular cultures and the justifications of the abuse of others.

The entire reason why white people are defined as such or Aryan is given this bizarre definition which has nothing to do with the people who were originally calling themselves that is for the purpose of denoting the superiority of the in-group and thus justifying its dominance over the out-group.

Remember that Hitler also declared the Japanese to be honorary Aryans, which completely breaks any claim it had to being linked to actual ethnicity, and makes it transparently a nebulous concept used for political reasons. Just as how people who weren't considered white at one point become white later.
 
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deathkiller

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User Banned (3 Days): Driving a derail over multiple posts
the distinction between white supremacist and aryan supremacist did not directly cause "millions of deaths."

and defending the notion that hitler wasn't a white supremacist because his concept of aryanism is just merely a subset of white people is fucking meaningless, grow the hell up
It did cause cause the death millions, Hitler war was a war of extermination and the history of the "white" victims deserves respect and their suffering not diluted with neologisms. As I said, white supremacists are not any better than Nazis but knowing what happened is important.
 

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It did cause cause the death millions, Hitler war was a war of extermination and the history of the "white" victims deserves respect and their suffering not diluted with neologisms. As I said, white supremacists are not any better than Nazis but knowing what happened is important.

Congrats, you woke up today and decided to defend the notion that hitler wasn't a white supremacist. 436 posts on this site in 2 years, less than 1 post a day, and yet here you are with 2 in 20 minutes devoted towards spreading the myth that Hitler wasn't a white supremacist
 

L Thammy

Spacenoid
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It did cause cause the death millions, Hitler war was a war of extermination and the history of the "white" victims deserves respect and their suffering not diluted with neologisms. As I said, white supremacists are not any better than Nazis but knowing what happened is important.
Here's the trick. The definition of whiteness changes. Slavs were one of Hitler's largest ethnic targets. Slavs would probably be considered to be white today. But Hitler didn't consider them to be white, he considered them to be a separate race altogether - so targeting them was still an act of white supremacy in his own mind.

en.wikipedia.org

Untermensch - Wikipedia


The Wikipedia article here also highlights how the Nazis borrowed ideas from American white nationalists like the KKK.
 
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EdibleKnife

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Oct 29, 2017
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He said he believes public health restrictions in Alaska are far out of proportion to the threat posed by COVID-19. Ten Alaskans have died from the virus, many fewer than the state's annual death toll from influenza. He agreed that public health guidelines have contributed to that low COVID-19 death toll but said the danger has passed.

"We have a way of life that is being threatened right now because we have shut down our economy," Carpenter said. "Yes, somebody might get sick and somebody might die, but our way of life will continue. And right now, our way of life is in jeopardy."

So he trusts that the public health guidelines staved off deaths but doesn't trust the people who set those guidelines to actually know when it's over huh? If the "danger has passed" medical experts wouldn't be stressing not to fucking reopen. I also hate this "people die every day" bullshit. It's like a 1000 starving ravenous tigers are running throughout the city slaughtering people, Animal Control comes out and tells people to stay off the streets while they attempt to corral them, then people like this say, "People die everyday/The cure can't be worse than the disease!" to force they idea that people are being robbed of their freedom and somehow this situation is normal rather than fucking dire. This isn't like the fucking flu. If it were epidemiologists and biologists wouldn't be fucking panicking. Hospitals wouldn't be full and begging for medical equipment and PPE if this was just "one of those quirks of life", "some die some live", etc.

Carpenter said fear over the virus is now a bigger threat than the virus itself and could cause Alaskans to sacrifice liberties. He said he feels Alaska is headed down a slippery slope and that while the state is far from Nazi Germany's extermination camps, those didn't start out overnight.

"Can you or I — can we even say it is totally out of the realm of possibility that COVID-19 patients will be rounded up and taken somewhere?" he said. "People want to say Hitler was a white supremacist. No. He was fearful of the Jewish nation, and that drove him into some unfathomable atrocities."

Yes there is a facility created to house patients with COVID. It's called a fucking hospital. Doctors have already given you and everyone else the game plan. Stay at home, sanitize and wear masks. That will reduce the number of COVID patients. COVID patients aren't being "targeted" they're being fucking treated. No one will be "rounded up" at all and even if that were a possibility, it's easy to solve by reducing the number of fucking patients which is why the fucking guidelines exist.

Funny how he's so concerned about people's fear of a certain group causing one to commit atrocities but I can almost guarantee he hasn't said word one about shit like the Trump administration's decimation & demonization of Hispanic families and corralling of their children into actual unsafe camps where abuses and fatal illnesses have already taken place or police brutality and injustices/judicial abuse of black and brown people or trans people being denied basic civil and human rights systematically due to being grossly and purposely mis-characterized as mentally ill pedophiles by the religious right.
 
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jett

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Trump has really ruined the US beyond repair over the last four years.