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Alanah Pearce: Xbox Series X gameplay demo & speed test

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Multiple game crashes, but also [Edit: currently, at this very moment] BC incompatible games

Halo Master Chief Collection
Gears 5
Forza (Horizon 4) - mentioned, no start attempt

To me it is unexpected that XBox Game Studios games have BC problems with their new console...
I would have expected them to be rock solid from first day any external user got to use their system!
 
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CloseTalker

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Yeah they've been gradually adding new compatible games. They sent consoles out to influencers a month prior to launch, it's expected some things wouldn't work. I wouldn't worry about something like Forza or Halo not working at launch.
 
Shark

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It's refreshing that she kept issues or problems in but given the source and how consistent she is...also not surprised.
 
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I would suspect that the reason those games are incompatible is that Microsoft has an Xbox Series X Optimization patch in the works, so they want players to see that version instead of something that they will never see on launch hardware.
 
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Odd about those first party games. đź‘€

Expect them to be ready to go at launch though.

edit: All the replies saying don't worry are refreshing and hilarious at the same time. Wish this level of maturity was applied across the board. Instead we have threads devolving over PR word choice and how we should all be "skeptical/concerned/worried".
 
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Weird that Halo and Gears doesn't fall back to hardware BC.

edit: How solidly is the Xbox hardware itself backwards compatible excluding emulation & patches?
Sony ensured it was fully bc on a silicon level hence 99% compatibility across 4000+ titles.
 
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I wouldn't be concerned, still plenty of time to get it sorted for launch or even shortly after launch. Perhaps some can appreciate Sonys 99% of games will work speech now though, both consoles will have games that don't work and thats not only ok but also expected.
 
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Isn't this a little bit misleading? Maybe MS has a day one patch to fix compatibility issues especially if they only had like 500 games available during the test. No way Xbox drops the ball like this after all the goodwill they built up so far.
 
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FWIW, Gamekult mentioned in their DIRT5 live the console receives almost daily updates. Makes sense since the software is not finale but eh. I am not worried.
 
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Respect to her for showing the issues there too, that was a good preview.
 
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Hybrid Rainbow said:
Isn't this a little bit misleading? Maybe MS has a day one patch to fix compatibility issues especially if they only had like 500 games available during the test. No way Xbox drops the ball like this after all the goodwill they built up so far.
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What's misleading about showing the issues she has with her preview unit? That's called transparency. Most reasonable people would understand XSX software is still getting fixed and these potential issues probably won't occur with retail units at release.
 
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Just as it will be the same for PlayStation, so to is it expected that the Series X & S will take some fine tuning with backwards compatible titles to make them work properly on this and future platforms.

Nice to see coverage of the console, warts and all though. Highlighting these issues publicly will draw attention to them and get them sorted out quicker, which is better for everyone.
 
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I'm sure they'll work by launch. This is why Sony talked about the "how 99% of games worked but some might experience issues" stuff.
 
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Both consoles will have day 1 system software updates.
Why would they be ready a month prior when you can give your engineers an extra month of time to get it done?
 
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I wonder if they have a little extra custom series x optimization coming for Halo MCC, hence its exclusion currently like Gears 5.

Couldn't soften the blow of no infinite at launch
 
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Over a month out from the retail release of the console they're obviously working on everything. Nothing to worry about here in my opinion.
 
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ZanderEzekial said:
I would suspect that the reason those games are incompatible is that Microsoft has an Xbox Series X Optimization patch in the works, so they want players to see that version instead of something that they will never see on launch hardware.
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It is confirmed, games like Forza and Gears doesn't work on purpose since they are waiting to release the optimization patch.
 
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    RogerL said:
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    that is wrong. I haven't watched video so I'm not sure if that's how they're characterized. press is receiving firmware updates that enable 200-500 BC games per update roughly once a week. if it's currently not playable for us, that does NOT mean it will not be part of BC suite; we've been told to expect everything that works on Xbox One X to work on this.
     
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    I'm expecting those first party titles to have the biggest improvement patches on or close to day 1 so they are currently still being worked on. No sense in pushing half done upgrade patches to them.
     
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    RogerL said:
    To me it is unexpected that XBox Game Studios games have BC problems with their new console...
    I would have expected them to be rock solid from first day any external user got to use their system!
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    I dont think its BC problems. I suspect they have more elaborate patches for those games that are more "on going" types that they want these preview people to show off at some point. We've already seen Gears running 120 on Series S, etc.
     
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    Shark said:
    What's misleading about showing the issues she has with her preview unit? That's called transparency. Most reasonable people would understand XSX software is still getting fixed and these potential issues probably won't occur with retail units at release.
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    I'm just saying this is going to give people the wrong impression. People don't care about being reasonable when they take any chance they can to dunk on Xbox.
     

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    I think it's all due to not being final code at all. Microsoft sent the console early out and many people told us that there is a whitelist for games that gets bigger and bigger.
    I think it will all work just fine come launch.
     
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    I love that she left in the info/footage of snags and issues. I want the nitty-gritty with these new machines, just to keep expectations in check. I know this is still preview builds of almost everything, but some of that is definitely gonna be there at launch.
     
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    Great video and display, though I wish she would have swapped to something other than Ori everytime, just to get an idea of a more real world application for game switching.
     
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    I think maybe the title should have been what the youtube title was and not something editorialized to seem bad when the games just isn't available for preview purposes yet.

    Though it crashes a bit much, hoping for a day 1 patch to fix any such problems with quick resume.
     
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    actually interesting to see but yeah press has preview builds and they're getting newly compatible games on a regular basis. it's not "BC problems" it's just a whole fuckload of games to get ready by launch and they'll be fine.
     
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    Gears 5 is getting updated to be Series X Optimized so it would make sense that it's not on the current preview whitelist of games.

    Halo MCC very well could be as well given the updates that have been coming to PC. Well just have to see in a few weeks.
     
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    I expect all this to be working at launch but I would've thought 1st party games would've been first priority for BC.
     

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    I heard Maximilian say that those (and other) games don't work yet because the system isn't out yet and there are specific patches in the work for some of these bigger games.
     
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    Shark said:
    What's misleading about showing the issues she has with her preview unit? That's called transparency. Most reasonable people would understand XSX software is still getting fixed and these potential issues probably won't occur with retail units at release.
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    This is why I always save my games and quit them and will never trust quick resume. If by chance a game crashes like State of Decay 2 then you'll lose all the progress from when you last saved. I do the same thing on X currently. I believe Jeff from Giant Bomb brought this up too.
     
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