I was under the impression that it was Iran sponsored groups ? Eitherway, American imperialism is a thing and will probably always be a thing in my life time.
This. It's impossible to be a US president without having blood on your hands by the time you leave office.
The Neera Tanden situation is absurd.
lmao, sure why not I guess. Let's keep the endless cycle going instead.
Nah, not this. There are choices to be made. And the reason why every US president repeats the exact same actions as the one before him, is because every single president that has come don't give a fuck about deescalating and reducing warfare. The US is after its interests. Well, the rich donor class's interests. And that's why they keep the machine going. Gotta sell those weapons. Gotta keep those pesky countries right on the brink.
I hope your right. It's be real nice to see progressive leadership from the US in my lifetime.
Well in that case, might as well get it over with as quickly as possible!
??? What on earth is my brand of bullshit? Pushing back against glib posts? You haven't even actually responded to anything.
The military industrial complex is huge and has unfathomable power. I had no idea until I met people who worked in it and spoke at length about everything they did and everything it touches. I don't mean this in a conspiratorial way -- just that the size and momentum of the US military is straight-up astounding, and even if it was possible to order it to stand down immediately, which it isn't, it would have unbelievable cascading effects, even within peaceful civilian realms.
Iraq has a sunni / shia split and the shia militias and government elements receive support from Iran. That's my most recent understanding at least -- correct me if I'm wrong.
Or maybe people are mad that we're still in places we have no business being in with no signs of things getting better anytime soon and having no tangible strategy beyond "feed the money machine that is the US military"
The eternal story of "centrist" Democrats and the voters who fall for their act.
Agreed. Militias went and attacked our troops. We retaliated only on the militia. What's all the fuss about here?
Exactly. The reactions in this thread are ridiculous. If Biden did nothing they'd feel emboldened and attack us more. Not really sure what was expected here.
Honestly it's a bit of both. Yes, people really care, undoubtedly. And it's worth caring about -- the middle east is completely fucked up, largely because of the US. But social media is inherently performative. There are definitely people I know on my Facebook feed who do more performing than actual activism. I can't speak to the specific motivations of anyone I don't know, but I would presume that there are some similar people on ERA and other message boards too.
How is this relevant at all? Are you going to write up any substantive thoughts on anything or just troll for reactions?
Yeah, after reading more about it, I can understand why this the US had to retaliate. The situation sucks, but the US needed to have a response.
"It's only been a month give him time!!!"
The goal should be to get the fuck out of Iraq so retaliation isn't necessary. At least we pulled the fuck out of Yemen.
I think I agree with you. Is there a single head of state on Earth that would be against retaliating against a militia group that killed and wounded their people in an attack? As long as no civilians were killed and there's no major info I'm overlooking, it was justified by the standards of virtually every nation that has ever had a military.
