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I also hated ZTD but really enjoyed this. It's got a very different tone/focus than ZE, though.
My opinion on the Zero Escape games is about the same as yours (I thought 999 was great, I loved VLR initially but as time went on I found it weakened significantly the more I thought about it, and I thought ZTD was godawful), and I loved AI. I think it's at least up there with 999 for me, albeit a very different kind of story. The characters in particular are stronger than any of the Zero Escape games.
Can't comment on Switch performance since I played on PC.
Main issues I had with the Switch version was that there was a bit of a delay whenever there were picture-in-picture moments (which happen quite a lot) and it did crash once near to the end.
Worth playing, but it's tonally very different from the zero escape games. Much more light and much more anime (YMMV on whether or not that's a good thing). I liked it a lot more than ZTD, but I put both 999 and VLR far above it.
Switch version has some oddly long pauses when loading picture in picture mode during some conversations, but is otherwise totally fine. I played through the whole game on Switch.
I bought it at the $29.99 price, it's arriving today. I consider myself a fan of 999 and VLR and ZTD's story wasn't as good, but the gameplay was the best.
... Any "tips" or anything I should know before starting that you wished you knew when you started?
... Any "tips" or anything I should know before starting that you wished you knew when you started?
Not sure why pervy stuff offends you but alright. I think that's missing stuff that's worth playing though
You really don't know why someone would find that shit tiring?
Like... in this game it's not even really jokes or innuendo, or fan service, which are things I could at least vaguely understand why people want. Here it's just completely unnecessary childish pervyness? It's "all male characters really can't think of anything but boobs, deep down" level nonsense that dragged the game down for no reason.
Try for go for the branch it's less "crazy" than the other. Repeat until you got a ending and go back to the other branches until you finish all of them and return to the first set of branch.
The demo was terrible. I beat it thinking "no rush to get this game! And definitely not at 60$!"
The first 30 minutes of the actual game are way more engaging than the demo. The demo almost unsold me entirely. But glad you liked it, the actual games beginning seems to be so much better so far!
Huh! Suppose this is super good news then haha, cheers for the heads up
Yeah, demos are hit or miss
Most straight men probably won't come out and say it, but yeah that sounds accurate. We've had wars over this.
Most straight men probably won't come out and say it, but yeah that sounds accurate. We've had wars over this.
I'm going to have to agree, I think it's actually "spot on" that if you have a character where you can literally read his thoughts in the video game, he'd be thinking a lot about women and their sexual attractiveness. It would be weird for a single straight male NOT to do that. So yeah, I'm not bothered by this character's random sexual thoughts, it like... makes sense if we're reading the mind of a 20-something year old male. I sure as shit wouldn't want my 20 year old mind to be read.
... But also: you don't need this in your game. This game wouldn't be worse if the character never mentioned any of his inner sexual thoughts. So, yeah if they filtered all the sexual conversation out of this game (AND ALL media for that matter), I wouldn't complain. Nobody needs it in their media.
"won't come out and say it" and for good reason. Even if I buy your premise, if I acquainted myself with someone who engaged in humor like Date I would blow my brains out. He's actually harmless most of the time, but he's also horribly unfunny.
Uhhhhh nope? Really can't say that's true. I'm attracted to women, not asexual, and I absolutely do not think about women that way. Nor do I think my friends who are attracted to women do, or they've at least certainly never talked about them in that way. There's a pretty big difference between just noticing someone's attractive and Date's leering.
And I wasn't even really talking about his thoughts, fwiw. That would at least just be kinda scummy at worst. But the shit he actually says/does can get even grosser too, and honestly there's some stuff unrelated to him like the mercenaries falling over themselves to see a porn mag or underwear, or Moma's stuff with Iris, I guess maybe some of the stuff with Ota's behavior that's kinda ignored later on too that bothered me more. And I don't feel the game does enough to justify the bits of this behavior it does try to explain.
And I say this as someone who largely liked Date and was very into the game overall, to be clear.
Originally posted this in the eShop thread, but I`m guessing the OT will have more answers.
AI: The Somnium Files are at a pretty nice discount, but I've never played VN games. Questions: 1) As a fan of Ace Attorney, will I enjoy it?, 2) Is there side-content or more ways to engage with the game outside of the main story?, 3) How is replayability? I do enjoy rereading booksand replaying my favorite cases in AA, so I guess it doesn't matter that much and 4) All of that is in regards to the VN genre, but is AI a strong game in said genre?
AI: The Somnium Files are at a pretty nice discount, but I've never played VN games. Questions: 1) As a fan of Ace Attorney, will I enjoy it?, 2) Is there side-content or more ways to engage with the game outside of the main story?, 3) How is replayability? I do enjoy rereading booksand replaying my favorite cases in AA, so I guess it doesn't matter that much and 4) All of that is in regards to the VN genre, but is AI a strong game in said genre?
1) Probably, yes. Parts of the game are similar to Ace Attorney's investigation sequences.
2) Not really, aside from odd optional dialogue choices or investigating extraneous things.
3) I don't think it's any more replayable than an Ace Attorney game. Once you've seen the plot progression, there isn't anything new to see, though you could of course revisit things.
4) Imo it's a middling entry in the VN genre. It's solid and worth reading, but there are far better VNs out there. One of the best things in VNs are those "oh shit" moments when you connect the dots about something, and while this game has them, they're generally just not as strong as those of other games.
Yeah, I wasn't talking about whether it needs to be in the game or not, just whether or not a stereotypical straight male would think about females for a large portion of their mental processes.
For a separate take: I played this in front of my Wife and she thought the pervy humor was hilarious.
This isn't uncommon with japanese anime/games though, just as example, Metal Gear Solid 5 has a cardboard box you can hide in that folds out in the shape of a pin up model that distracts enemies just as absurdly. It doesn't justify it necessarily but it's not the only thing that does this style of humor either.
So I picked up this game on the eshop the other day and I'm super excited to play it! In preparation, I started watching the arg video summary from Jack's Bag of Macca. Part 1 was amazing! However, part 2 seems spoiler-y as Tesa started playing the game herself. Now my question is, should I watch part 2 before playing the game? Or is it something that I should avoid for now?
Nothing in any of the videos that came out before the game did are spoilery.
Got my copy today, picked it up while it was on sale. Played for four hours straight and didnt want to stop. The writing is fucking incredible so far, and I'm already finding myself picking my jaw up at times. I love Uchikoshi
Finished this game about an hour ago. Had a fantastic time with it. Really raises my spirits after ZTD.
Gameplay elements weren't fantastic i must admit but the writing is really great (not sure about the English script as I played it Japanese)
Overall I'm sad it's over I was expecting a few more twists though and i think it does one really bad thing which is
Gameplay elements weren't fantastic i must admit but the writing is really great (not sure about the English script as I played it Japanese)
Overall I'm sad it's over I was expecting a few more twists though and i think it does one really bad thing which is
It introduces the true culprit too late
So I'm about 8 hours into this game and I want to know if I'm on the right track with my thinking:
Is Date the original killer from 6 years ago? And somehow his memories got erased? (I haven't gotten to as of why if this is indeed the case)
Wait, now that I've gotten a bit further into the story, I think I may have known what happened?
I'm at the part where they explain that if you go past the 6 minute limit, then a body swap can be possible. Is it that someone tried to psync with Date 6 years ago, but the limit was reached, therefore switched bodies with Date, and that's why he doesn't remember anything?
So I'm pretty sure I beat the game?
With the whole dance sequence at the end. Did I miss it, or did they not really explain Date retaining some memories across timelines?
Leading up to the ending, I was expecting Date was receiving information via timeline resonance due to Aiba's crazy accurate situational predictions, but nope. Didn't go nearly as pseudoscience as I was hoping. Was honestly kinda disappointed.
Leading up to the ending, I was expecting Date was receiving information via timeline resonance due to Aiba's crazy accurate situational predictions, but nope. Didn't go nearly as pseudoscience as I was hoping. Was honestly kinda disappointed.
I finished the game yesterday evening. Regarding your question,
no, I don't think it is actually explained. It is merely shown that Date apparently has access to some memories of events that did not happen on the true ending timeline.
Finished the game and it was excellent!
A little disappointed that Date's body belonged to Saito the whole time because I think the character design for the protagonist is incredible :( Yagyu/Falco doesn't do it for me lol
Picked this up at the library a few days back and I'm loving it so far, think I'm about halfway through. I really, really like the cast, and the english VO is great. Can't believe I haven't heard of it before seeing it at the library.
Surprised to see some many users express active annoyance at the game's reliance on pervy jokes
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely get that they're not for everyone, repetitive, and even grating at times, but rather than being some intrusive running gag that didn't fit with the game's tone, it's actively woven into the overarching narrative that does a good job of balancing dark themes with levity. I'm not saying the pervy jokes were always good (maybe half of them were), but at the very least, Greg Chun's sheer charisma and the strength of the script made them work for me, even if the joke didn't always land.
That said, I will die on a hill defending QTE "battle segments", which is a rare instance of a game having a moment that's so dumb, it's good. Their only flaw were the repetitive solutions, but people calling them out for breaking the story's tension entirely missed the point. It's a schlocky send up to classic detective shootouts. Like, if Date screaming "LIMITED EDITION" as he ]manages to avoid a lethal trap from the main antagonist didn't at least elicit a smile or chuckle then...
Regardless, it's a bit weird how people can take umbrage with the game's reliance on such jokes and say they like Moma in the same breath (who is without a doubt the most degenerate character in the game). I don't know how he turned in the loveable meme character.
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely get that they're not for everyone, repetitive, and even grating at times, but rather than being some intrusive running gag that didn't fit with the game's tone, it's actively woven into the overarching narrative that does a good job of balancing dark themes with levity. I'm not saying the pervy jokes were always good (maybe half of them were), but at the very least, Greg Chun's sheer charisma and the strength of the script made them work for me, even if the joke didn't always land.
That said, I will die on a hill defending QTE "battle segments", which is a rare instance of a game having a moment that's so dumb, it's good. Their only flaw were the repetitive solutions, but people calling them out for breaking the story's tension entirely missed the point. It's a schlocky send up to classic detective shootouts. Like, if Date screaming "LIMITED EDITION" as he ]manages to avoid a lethal trap from the main antagonist didn't at least elicit a smile or chuckle then...
Regardless, it's a bit weird how people can take umbrage with the game's reliance on such jokes and say they like Moma in the same breath (who is without a doubt the most degenerate character in the game). I don't know how he turned in the loveable meme character.
I just finished one of the endings. I never expected to like this game so much. Before I only liked the phoenix wright series in this genre. But 999 or other zero escape series games did not hook me. What should I look for next?
This is what I liked
This is what I liked
- the story
- the interactivity in the dreams
- being on switch
- not only 2d images, but a lot of direct movement and cutscenes
- being on switch
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Steins; Gate Elite is on Switch and while it does not have direct movement, it is essentially the original Steins; Gate game done by the team that did the anime. So instead of the static images, there are animated scenes.
I think I bought that for Vita? I remember not being grabbed within the first 15 minutes. I should try again then :)
Edit: no, I have Steins; Gate, but without the «elite» part :)
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Hey what's the optimal story path for this game in your first playthrough? All the way to the left path? Then make your way right? I forget what was said previously in this thread
I'd recommend playing the original Steins;Gate on Vita, its a fantastic experience and hands down possibly my all-time favorite VN.
Elite's a cool concept, but I think I prefer the originals presentation over it.
I'll disagree. The Elite edition art and presentation are fantastic and surpass the OG. We can agree the game and story itself is my favorite VN of all time and must be played no matter which version you choose to play!
If you have a 3ds, try Ghost Trick. It's a standalone story made by the same writer who did Phoenix Wright.
Personally I enjoyed Ghost Trick a lot more than AI.
I did buy a version for the original DS I think? I don't have it anymore, and it didn't grab me either, although I remember it scored high in reviews.
I restarted the original Steins; Gate for Vita yesterday and got a bit further than before. Still not feeling it, but I really want to like it :)
i also completed Ai: the Somnium files 5 minutes ago. I had such a good time :)
also, sorry everyone for being so picky. Maybe Phoenix Wright and AI are two rare VN exceptions for me.
edit: wait a minute, I loved Hotel Dusk :) All hope is not lost.
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Heard about that one, but never played it. Either way, getting away from Zero Escape's universe and doing something new already seems beneficial.
Steins;Gate takes a while to get into, the start is a very slow burn of a lot of world and character building. It really works in the games own favor though.
It took me quite long to get into it too. If you change your mind, I would recommend watching the anime, which is a fantastic and surprisingly well done adaptation
I had a lot of nitpicks regarding the anime adaptation in spite of it still being good, regarding some things as having been done better in the original game yet occasionally considering other elements better in the anime. I wouldn't say that there's any definitive version of Steins;Gate's story, but both playing the original game (not Elite) and watching the anime series along with the movie would be what I'd recommend.
I'll play Steins;Gate for atleast a couple more hours then :) I haven't watched an anime in a long time, but I'll think about watching it after finishing the game :)
also, I fully recommend AI for VN beginners like myself :)
ERA Game of the Year voting thread!
GET VOTING PEOPLE! This game isn't going to represent itself and it needs all the exposure it can get! GO! GO! GO!
GET VOTING PEOPLE! This game isn't going to represent itself and it needs all the exposure it can get! GO! GO! GO!