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After the fact, yes it was still a dumbass decision to use huge cg eyes in Alita: Battle Angel
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And honestly, the story itself didn't bother me. I think it might have just been that actor. But I dunno. I really enjoyed the movie outside of him.
The entire point in the source material was that she looked like a regular girl, with her cyborg body itself being the only giveaway (hence hiding her arms when she first met Hugo in the manga, not her eyes).
None of the Hugo stuff was great in the source material either, though they added more to this.
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This adaptation went with a literal interpretation and then tried to justify it as being a cyborg thing specifically in-universe.
Happened within the same arc and volume in the manga.
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Yeah it was strange but I got used to it like 20 minutes into the movie. I went in expecting some mediocre stuff but it was actually a really fun movie. I liked it so much I ended up getting the boxed set of the books because I had to know how it went in the source material and what happened next.
Yeah the weird ass huge eyes they used for the URM cyborgs was a bad decision but it didn't take away from the movie.
Yeah the weird ass huge eyes they used for the URM cyborgs was a bad decision but it didn't take away from the movie.
Are you asking a question?
My answer would be: I didn't like it in the first trailers, I learnt to tolerate it, I got used it, now I like it. I don't think it makes her a live action anime character, it just makes her slightly non-human. An outsider. Which is the point.
My answer would be: I didn't like it in the first trailers, I learnt to tolerate it, I got used it, now I like it. I don't think it makes her a live action anime character, it just makes her slightly non-human. An outsider. Which is the point.
This is how I felt. I had feared it would be another ghost in the shell but I was pleasantly surprised.
It doesn't matter. Alita is always doing all kinds of ridiculous, superhuman shit. She'd be a digital double for most of the picture, and I think constantly changing between a real person and a digital character would be more jarring and distracting. Nevermind that she's always with a cyborg body with inhuman proportions, so either way it'd be her face pasted into a CG creation, and that won't be able to hold up all the time. And why the big eyes? I think that if she had a more human face it'd be easier (for us) to spot her inherent fakeness, like so many other movies have tried before. This way she's not really quite human, so the flaws in achieving a completely photorealistic person are less apparent. Anyway that's my opinion on it.
But it really did stop being a problem for me almost immediately. The flaws in the movie lie in the half-baked script, not Alita's face.
why do we keep giving robert rodriguez blank checks to do bullshit like the eye enlarging. just make a normal movie for once you hack. blarghhh
It didn't bug me as much as I thought it would. I think it's mainly cause all the other robots looked so weird and uncanny that her eyes didn't stand out as much.
The eyes bothered me but I was still able to enjoy the movie.
Honestly missed the fact that the flashback teammates also had the eyes. If I'd noticed that originally then the eyes may have bothered me less, because it'd at least be consistent. The fact that (it seemed like) only she had the eyes is what made it weird.
Honestly missed the fact that the flashback teammates also had the eyes. If I'd noticed that originally then the eyes may have bothered me less, because it'd at least be consistent. The fact that (it seemed like) only she had the eyes is what made it weird.
In this case, the eyes were James Cameron's idea. Rodriguez listened to him and rolled with it.
I figured the eyes are like that because she's a warrior and bigger eyes mean she sees more.
i enjoyed the movie, even though the first 30 minutes kinda felt like a middle of a movie and not the beginning.
i enjoyed the movie, even though the first 30 minutes kinda felt like a middle of a movie and not the beginning.
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Grewishka's actor is not a hulking beast like the character and is clearly all cg in the movie. If you're talking about the illusion holding up then that's not even part of the argument. The cg elements of the movie look like cg. It's not fooling anyone. Why can a completely cg Grewishka have normal facial proportions but Alita gotta be anime face?
Eyes played no roll in watching the movie or not or how I felt about it. I just accepted it for what it was and I enjoyed the movie.
Weird how people who (I'm guessing) didn't mind the large eyes of non-humans in Avatar draw the line at a non-human having larger eyes in this fantasy.
I had no problem with it at all. It makes sense in context, and you get used to it either way.
As pointed out above, despite ignorant assertions to the contrary, all of her engineered cohort share the same feature - clearly a battle enhancement then.
And it's not that big a leap from the manga, which has plenty of panels where Hugo has normal-sized eyes vs. Alita's large so-called 'manga' eyes.
So let go your eye-size prejudice Era doubters and give it a chance. It's fun.
I had no problem with it at all. It makes sense in context, and you get used to it either way.
As pointed out above, despite ignorant assertions to the contrary, all of her engineered cohort share the same feature - clearly a battle enhancement then.
And it's not that big a leap from the manga, which has plenty of panels where Hugo has normal-sized eyes vs. Alita's large so-called 'manga' eyes.
So let go your eye-size prejudice Era doubters and give it a chance. It's fun.
Same. The hate it's getting here is unfortunate.
It was a more interesting and entertaining blockbuster with far more heart and soul than a lot of candy-coated CG "splosion fests" that occupy the box office these days.
Sadly, it arrived 15 years too late. This would have set the box office on fire back in the day. But since it's not MCU...well...you know how it goes.
It's amazing what gets a pass around here. Fuck Banner/Hulk over and assassinate the character by making them a stupid CG amalgamation, and it gets a pass. Try to adapt a manga and use CG to offset the look of a female CYBORG with larger-than-life eyes...OMFG SO DISGUSTING WILL NOT WATCH!!!
Then why didn't Christoph Waltz had an impossibly huge chin as well?
Aquaman just did a billion dollars and venom came damned close to it.
People were throwing money at the Transformers films long after the wheels fell off that franchise.
Not being MCU wasn't the reason it didn't do well.
honestly got used to it after 10 minutes. funnily enough that became the least significant niggle in a hugely uneven film that just ends really suddenly.
This.
Alita is definitely a bad ass. The only big downside is the boyfriend arc and some really confusing stuff happening like 2/3rds of the way. Like they tried to go through lots of stuff in a short amount of time.
Did the woman scientist get dissected and get brain, eyes, hands and tongue(?) get put into a suitcase to blackmail Alita? I have no idea what that was about. (I assume in the sequel if ever, she will return a cyborg)
Stuff like that was like wtf.
Stuff like that was like wtf.
Her eyes are fine after a few minutes. I actually find it very believable. Maybe the expressions are a bit too exaggerated but they sell the scenes. Like when she is riding with the due on his bike and she smiles from experiencing that. Really well done.
I would have liked it with Rosa Salazar, like her actual look, but this works. She did a great job with voice acting and portraying alita.
I disagree. I saw the movie and read all the manga way before. Alita has manga eyes because she is a young girl. Other characters that are fully human have as big or bigger eyes (Koyomi, Shumira). The manga has its own version of battle enhanced eyes that don't look human at all. They are called compound eyes like the ones bugs have.
The big eye thing was the least of the movie's issues for me - though it did often create an uncanny valley effect that wouldn't have been there if they just had the actress' normal face on display. The movie was pretty dull for me, I just didn't click with it at all, so even though I could tell they were going for cool action scenes, I didn't really care about any of the characters so it was all weightless fluff that didn't excite me. Some cool moves and fight scenes but they all felt so artificial and hollow. Alita was too doe-eyed and "Oooooh, isn't everything so amazing???" for me to get behind, her love interest was just a really poor actor, all the bad guys were moustache-twirling blobs of over-designed CGI with creepy human faces slapped on...I just couldn't engage with any of it. It was better made than the Transformers films, but I had that same sense of apathy I had with all but the first of Bay's films in that series, I just didn't care about the spectacle they were showing me.
Not a bad film by any means, but one I'd never choose to watch again.
Not a bad film by any means, but one I'd never choose to watch again.
YES it is the MCU's fault Alita was middling and underwhelmed at the BO. Yeeeeesh what a take, MCU got people angryyyy
Want that the point? She was different than the other characters?
Huh, the James Cameron thing is news to me.
I'm curious if he gave Rodriguez the idea due to Avatar.
I'm curious if he gave Rodriguez the idea due to Avatar.
Should they've cgd Scajo's eyes in Ghost in the Shell to make her more anime-looking as well then?
Didn't even notice it after a few minutes. The eyes help remind the audience that she's a cyborg. It's not a bad movie at all. If you avoided it due to the eyes you missed out.
