Yep, sold my base PS4 to a friend for $200, and got a Pro on sale for like $330 or something. Came in pretty handy for certain games like God of War and Kingdom Hearts 3
Being 45. Single dad 1 week out of two ,Good paying job . Owning my house and cars, trading up consoles does not make much dent in my budget . So I guess it all depends where you are in life.Why the fuck would I buy a console I already own again? How the hell is the poll almost 70%? What kind of disposable income do you have where you go and buy the same console twice?
How does it fragment the market and screw over early adopters? Everyone can play the same shit as far as I know. Something like the New 3ds xl would be more accurate since you actually couldn't play certain games on the old 3ds.Nope. I don't like mid-gen refreshes. I don't mind slim hardware for people who want a different aesthetic design, but "pay us again for a half-step console that fragments the market and screws over early adopters" doesn't sit well with me.
Still have my old-ass PS4. The only reason I got a PS3 Slim was because my launch 60GB PS3 died and Sony replaced it with a Slim when I sent it in for repairs.
?Why the fuck would I buy a console I already own again? How the hell is the poll almost 70%? What kind of disposable income do you have where you go and buy the same console twice?
Very similar lol! 38 years old, with 2 kids, a house etc. Having 2 girls that also love video games makes it easy for me. There's always hand me downs going around.Being 45. Single dad 1 week out of two ,Good paying job . Owning my house and cars, trading up consoles does not make much dent in my budget . So I guess it all depends where you are in life.
I don't think many of us bought it twice, most sold the base console and paid some difference. If you find the right deal and buyer its not that expensive
Did not update the PS4 to the Pro due to the lack of 4K Bluray and less of a bump compared to the One X which I did upgrade from the Xbox One base to.
The current console generation was marked by the release of mid-gen consoles that offered 4K support and increased power over the base models. This is unlikely to happen for the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X consoles, according to former Xbox Executive Albert Penello.
Speaking on the ResetEra forums, Penello explained why mid-gen PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series refreshes are unlikely to happen. The PlayStation 4 Pro and Xbox One X were more of a necessity due to 4K displays becoming rapidly more mainstream, as the base models were designed driving 1080p output. As 8K displays are unlikely to become more mainstream in 3 or so years, there may simply be no need for a mid-gen refresh this time around.
It may simply be less necessary as well. 4K was becoming a mainstream resolution for PC and TV's, and the the base consoles were designed around driving 1080p (or less) output. When you have a set that requires 4x the performance *just* to drive 4x the pixels, then you eat up all the performance just driving resolution. I think it's unlikely we'll see 8K TV's go mainstream in the same way we saw 4K go mainstream - we're more likely to see improvements in NITS (to drive better HDR) or better framerates to support greater than 60fps on TV's. CPU's and GPU's in the next-gen should easily support higher frame rates and wider colors.
So the mid-gen upgrades are not only less financially and technically viable, but also likely less necessary to keep up with display technologies.
In a following post, Albert Penello also highlighted how a 20, 24 teraflop machine is not going to be affordable in a console form factor even in 3 years, making a PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X mid-gen refresh even more unlikely.
I don't see a 20 / 24 tflop machine being affordable in a console form factor even in 3 years. The node change from 7nm to 5nm or 3 nm is going to be cost prohibitive and just mathematically unless they hit 3nm you're only going to see a 30% reduction in size but you're doubling the tflops so the chip has to grow. Additionally, you can't really double the GPU without growing CPU and Memory or you run in to other bottlenecks which further adds cost. There may be other silicon advancements I"m not privy to, but it's pretty widely known this is a real challenge right now. So looking through todays lens, I think it's unlikely you're going to see a mid-gen console this cycle.
With both the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X having yet to be released, talking of mid-gen refreshes definitely seems premature, but Albert Penello's statements make a lot of sense. Technology, however, is always evolving, and plans are constantly shifting so who knows what the future of consoles holds. Only time will tell.
Because it is better hardware?Why the fuck would I buy a console I already own again? How the hell is the poll almost 70%? What kind of disposable income do you have where you go and buy the same console twice?
It's the same console. It plays the same games.Because it is better hardware?
Poll is high because people love better hardware.
It is not the same console and having an extra 200-400 is not disposable income. Many easy ways to get that amount or make the whole less. Well unles you are a kid with no job or in college, then I would understand.
Gaming is not an expensive hobby and it is one that usually keeps paying for itself.
Does it really? It's mainly for boosting framerate and/or resolution to 2-4k. Fragmenting the user base would be having exclusive games on them and/or replacing the base models completely. More in line with what new 3ds did.Nope. I don't like mid-gen refreshes. I don't mind slim hardware for people who want a different aesthetic design, but "pay us again for a half-step console that fragments the market and screws over early adopters" doesn't sit well with me.
Still have my old-ass PS4. The only reason I got a PS3 Slim was because my launch 60GB PS3 died and Sony replaced it with a Slim when I sent it in for repairs.