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Russian Civil War 2.0: Now With Nukes! is everyone's doomsday scenario.
no, vietnam was supposed to have an election after the french withdraw and the U.S. came in and installed their own puppet to fuck shit up. Even before that the U.S was footing the French bill in the fight in the North
Not immediately. Over time, if Russia is crippled enough, possibly.
Yeah I mentioned this in the last thread. Russia cannot afford to be like US/NATO when it comes to advance weapons. You are going to instead see more indiscriminate, high explosive artillery barrages followed by armor. They also have thermobaric weapons as well that are just pure terror weapons.
Stickies get ignored. There should be a stealth sticky that sticks but not In the sticky zone.
For the time being, I'm not really going by anything that isn't being picked up and confirmed by news orgs. That's still susceptible to error, but there's at least some rigor there in trying to source or confirm the information.
And very much worse because this is a proverbial active shooter scenario across vast stretches of territory and hundreds of thousands of combatants mixed alongside millions of innocent people.
1. Never thought I'd hear a defense for the Vietnam War. Ooof.
2. I said this century, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya. Tell me, who did Iraq attack that justified the 2003 invasion? And tell me how it brought peace to the region?
Something tells me it won't actually be a concern for a while. :(
You forgot the useful idiot leftists that want Putin to win just to spite the US/NATO.
It took the coalition 2.5 weeks to take Baghdad. Ukraine is going to be more of a threat than Iraq, I'd imagine, and Russia not nearly as capable. So I would bet on something very bloody and protracted, as Russia tries attrition via air supremacy.
No, but if they cut SWIFT, do an energy embargo, restrict hi-tech exports to Russia and cut all tech support to all foreign software in Russia, then maybe in 4-5 years we'll have a chance of this not happening again.
All these months I've been anticipating it happening but it's still surreal to see Putin actually go through with it.
This feels like a major crossroads for Europe, either the EU is united now or will never be. I just hope the cost of this is insurmountable for Putin.
This feels like a major crossroads for Europe, either the EU is united now or will never be. I just hope the cost of this is insurmountable for Putin.
Reuters is sourcing Interfax, and I have no idea what the quality of that organization is. News organizations are starting to play telephone with information, don't trust anything without several layers of verification at this point.
I wish this fool would stop bullshitting his people. He's just gonna end up getting more people killed.
Not at all. This is going to be a horrific event. I also don't think we need to constantly signal boost awful people's takes in here either. We don't need reminders that Fox News suck in this thread.
I'm shaking just thinking about the people over there... Hoping to hear today from leaders of the world standing up to this with real actions to stop this as soon as possible. Probably wishful thinking, but I can only pray and hope.
I think the thread will stay on the first page due to sheer amount of commentary
I agree that the Iraq War comparison is apt which makes this invasion all the more baffling. There is no way Russia comes out of this not completely crippled.
Wholeheartedly agree, we do not have to capacity to factcheck random tweets.
Still have a bunch of family over in Mykolaiv. They woke in to their local military airport being bombed and to the bombing of nearby Odessa
Without large stockpiles of precision munitions, this is ineffective in urban fighting. As I've hit a few times, if Ukraine planned well (and they have experience from 2014 doing this), they will dig in around urban centers. Elsewhere, they'll concentrate on ambushes and fortified positions not cleared by fires.
It just will be a huge sacrifice on Ukraine to basically sacrifice their cities to have a chance of making Russia withdraw under excessive casualties.
I don't see how.
Heavy enough sanctions and we invite the same possibility of nuclear warfare in response. We can't cripple the country enough.
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CNN - Attack from Belarus by Russian and Belarusian jointly on Ukrainian Border Guards
The DSA? What is going on?
I don't see anyone talking about communism outside of China anymore. I was referring to how many of the boomer generation should remember the imminent and unceasing threat of nuclear war with an antagonistic power. Whether it's communism or capitalistic is unimportant. The major corporations are in bed with the government either way.
This is insane I took my eyes off the situation just long enough to play a little bit of Destiny and talk to one of my best friends and everything seems to gone to shit in just the 2 hours that I stepped away.
Do we have any direct confirmations from a concrete source that Kiev itself is being hit?
Do we have any direct confirmations from a concrete source that Kiev itself is being hit?