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Adobe announces real full fledge Photoshop for iPad (UP: Released)
- Thread starter Vanillalite
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Not only do they allow it, it is what Apple is actively encouraging these days.
This is a damn gamechanger. Their tablet version was already shaping up well but this could retool my entire workflow. Full photoshop on hardware lighter and thinner than most sketchbooks is making my eyes water. For fucks sake Apple, announce the new ipads already, I'm dying here. And update that embarrassment of a pencil too please.
Welp.
Damn, that's a disappointment. I mean, it's probably still worth using, but the whole reason people were excited about this was the idea of having the full program, right?
Well sounds like they might get it, just not at launch lol.
That blog post implies they could be waiting for quite a while. Pretty sneaky of Adobe to describe it as the "real" Photoshop, knowing what people were hoping for. Oh well.
Funnier than this is that, since the original announcement, I've been looking around to see if the actual photoshop SDK is supported, i.e. can you build actual, real plugins that work in the x86 versions of photoshop, on the ipad version? Because THAT would be a major component of what I'd consider the "Full fledged" photoshop support. And nobody will answer! I've even emailed devs at adobe directly and gotten nothing back.
Built in filters are nice, basic control functions should be expected, but the ability to roll your own of both through the SDK is definitely part of the "full fledged" experience.
I highly doubt they will let you add plug-ins any time soon. That seems like obvious potential for performance disasters on tablets.
then that takes out an enormous piece of the functionality of photoshop. The SDK support is what makes photoshop basically limitless in what you can do with it. You can bend photoshop to your will with it.
First and foremost, the launch product sounds disappointing. It's already late and still going to miss features at launch.
Second, I don't think Adobe can promise that outside plug-ins made for desktop will work so soon on a tablet product that is missing features. Because first it probably doesn't work exactly like the desktop version in reality (hence it missing simple stuff), and two is the plug-ins are designed and optimized to work natively on desktop right? iPad is not like some Windows tablets that are natively running desktop code with a simple way to add plugins.
I personally love Photoshop desktop but never have used a plug-in in my decade or so of casual use, so apologies if I'm wrong on this. But I just think we have learned with the recent beta news that if they haven't specifically said a feature is in, it honestly is probably not in.
That's not what I'm asking for. I'm asking for open SDK support at all. By all means, treat it like it's own branch, as it should be treated. I'm saying there is no indication that anybody can write any sort of plugin for it, desktop port or not.
The tools you use to extend scripting support like this, are the tools you use to build the application itself. That's how those tools come to be in the first place. This honestly sounds super half-baked. It's just irksome that they described "full fledged photoshop" but apparently mean just the UI and some pre baked filters and things of that sort.
I actually use photoshop for game dev, it's a very simple way to create assets. Usually my assets are not just pngs and stuff like that, I have to do things to turn them into usable pixel formats. It's way, way easier for me to write a script plugin to accomplish this, and thus build art-asset support for my game into photoshop, than to do the opposite, and build a photoshop clone to support my game. I actually kept an eye on this, because if you could write plugins for this, that would make the ipad a seriously useful tool for gamedev. I have a surface pro 3 for photoshop just for this, but it's getting long in the tooth. I'd love for the ipad to actually become a real, full productivity photoshop machine at a fraction of the cost of a new surface.
Haha, guess I have some time before this becomes something I could use.
But nice to see. I'm still rocking CS6 and have not found the need to upgrade yet.
I always end up with weird bugs when drawing on the Cintiq with a newer version.
I've been in the pre-release program for this for about 6 months, and I think a lot of the reason some features will be missing at launch is quite simply memory management. They've got to be retooling a lot of this program to work on a paltry 2-4GB of available memory. That said, if you already are a CC member, it has value, but it also has a long way to go.
EDIT holy necrobump 2018!!! Lol plz ignore
there's mouse support. Enable it is accessibility/touch
Works great with a couple of weird quirks- right click isn't really a thing in most iOS apps and for some reason the only Microsoft Bluetooth mouse I can pair is the wedge. Arc, intellimouse and desktop basic/designer won't pair. Wired and in dongles work if you have an adapter or a dock
Mouse and iPad are like peanut butter and chocolate- weirdness aside
Well dang, waited so long and it's not even gonna be complete? Sorry Adobe that's not good enough
Is this a thing in other iPad apps? Like access to another company's SDK for a particular app? I'm not sure I understand what this model looks like.
They've been working on this one for at least 2 years. I'm curious to see what state it's in.
yes, for example, you can build google cardboard iOS applications using google's SDK to launch with cardboard.
That's some... pretty basic stuff to be missing. Rotate canvas? Curves? Really?
But it's not like we haven't seen this inertia before. Look how long it took Adobe to port Photoshop to Cocoa. Apple had to kill-off a promised 64-bit Carbon to light a fire under them.
Sure you can. It's just that many ppl now are choosing much more reasonably priced alternatives like Clip Studio Paint and Affinity.
this was announced a while ago and you're missing stuff like rotate canvas? lmao
Procreate 5 stay winning
Procreate 5 stay winning
Geez, what's even the point when it's missing such basic features.
The team is aware and working on these features, and they are on the roadmap. They aren't releasing this as "good enough" but are releasing it as "here's build 1.0". I think a lot of people are forgetting that as powerful as the iPads are, this is being built to work on more than just the iPad Pro, so they're working around limitations for the lowest possible benchmark.
Procreate and Photoshop aren't really one in the same. They have overlap, but they serve different purposes. One is for art production that can handle some photo manipulation, the other is for photo manipulation that can handle art production.
It's a work in progress that will see features coming through the pipeline. Also, it isn't that they are gimping the iPad version so much as that they are slowly building the feature list around the limitations of the platform. The biggest complaints I have through my time with the pre-release (beta) software is that I cannot rotate the canvas. The team is aware, and everyone else in the test program has expressed these concerns. There is a lot planned for release down the road, but the team wants to get a stable 1.0 build out and into the public hands for current CC subscribers.
I think it's important to look at this for what it is, a starting point for Photoshop on a new platform, rather than what everyone hopes it will be: version 20 (i.e. current desktop photoshop).
Unfortunately. And with Catalina killing off my copy of CS3, looks like I'll probably have to pick up a copy of Photoshop Elements or move to something completely different to replace it.
I think Affinity Photo is their biggest purchase-once competitor. It's on the current Mac App Store.
LOL I don't why so many in this thread is worried about waiting for next iPad Pro for this new app. It's not like the next iPad pro will be radically more powerful or different. The only reason Adobe took this long is because they are a bloated beast of a developer working on million other things. They weren't waiting for proper hardware. Hardware's been ready since first iPad Pro.
Current iPad Pro and previous gen ones will run this new Photoshop just fine. The only real advantage to the next iPad Pro will be probably more RAM to create bigger more complex files/projects.
Current iPad Pro and previous gen ones will run this new Photoshop just fine. The only real advantage to the next iPad Pro will be probably more RAM to create bigger more complex files/projects.
Thanks, I'll look into it. I just need something to dink around with from time to time at home. Literally a "once a month" scenario, if even that.
I'm really glad the 2018 and onward iPad Pro proved to be such a stellar device, because initially - pretty much the reason I purchased it was because a full fledged photoshop was on the horizon. What a shit show by Adobe...
1st Gen iPad Pro will run to he app fine too. No need to single them out.
I get what they're doing, but I already have full PS on a Windows tablet that works well enough. I won't replace that with a gimpy iPad version.
I'm just saying that I'm glad I found more reasons than Photoshop to love my iPad Pro, or else I'd be pissed at this news
This was just a logical milestone before releasjng the version for ARM MacBook Pro next year.
I lament Apple switching to ARM since I love my absolutely rock-stable hackintosh and it will suck when macOS gives up Intel support.
Both can co-exist? I don't know why "replace" is something you think has to happen.
I had somehow missed this entire farce - I just bought a new Pro, but for Fresco and other stuff - the upgrade to 13.1 and mouse support (and lol "file" system) pushed me over the edge. Glad I wasn't counting on it but man it would make my life easier. Photoshop is basically the only thing I use regularly that forces me back to my desktop machine (Surface Book, so not strictly desktop).
I've had a fantastic experience with mouse, I LOVE the folio keyboard (it's actually the main reason I got a Pro last gen and this gen and I wish there was a Bluetooth knock off - I'd use it for everything.) But I would probably lose my shit at versioning PSD files with the File system in the state it is now. It's the most baffling and inconsistent thing on the entire OS.
Well, that and keyboard/autocorrect weirdness right now.
I've had a fantastic experience with mouse, I LOVE the folio keyboard (it's actually the main reason I got a Pro last gen and this gen and I wish there was a Bluetooth knock off - I'd use it for everything.) But I would probably lose my shit at versioning PSD files with the File system in the state it is now. It's the most baffling and inconsistent thing on the entire OS.
Well, that and keyboard/autocorrect weirdness right now.
Relax man. You'll still get 5+ years out of your Hackintosh. They ain't dropping Intel support for at least 4 years.
Also the Surface X that releases next month, Adobe is surely putting a lot of resources in ARM these days, so once they get used to it I am sure we will see features added at a steady pace, its the next area of expansion for them so is a logical next step