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School Shooting at Robb Elementary school in Uvalde, Texas. 19 students, 2 teachers, and shooter dead. See thread reply banner for fundraiser info.
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Don't know about this exact chart, but there seems to be a few resources showing similar information that were updated more recently. Try:
The gun lobby: See how much your representative gets
Republicans consistently get the most money.www.politico.com
Gun Rights Recipients
See aggregated party breakdowns and incumbency status of recipients of contributions from Gun Rights industries/interest groups for every election cycle from 1998 to 2024.www.opensecrets.org
I don't think that money really matters. It is such a small amount. I think they keep the gun rhetoric up because they know it is a wedge issue that will drive votes consistently.
The lack of detail we've received from the authorities thus far regarding the minute-by-minute timeline makes it clear they know it's going to look very bad for them, and they're preparing a typical "protect the blue" story to try to cover their own asses. It'll be everyone's fault but the cops' that he was in there for an hour despite them reportedly being on the scene from the start.
This is hard to watch... but Everyone should watch it. The GOP should have to wake up every morning watching this and many others who are victims to their inaction.
Yes. They had some bootlicker on Andersoon Cooper earlier who was making excuses for the local pigs - some shit like 'they didn't have the training' and 'they had to wait fro the appropriate task unit to showup'
Yeah I was trying to relay some of what I'd been gathering today about the story, but there was a lot of stipulations about how much of it is still fuzzy. I know this is developing, but I'm surprised we don't know more about the timeline of events that actually occurred like you're saying. Super sketchy.
Many schools can barely afford books. If they aren't gonna do anything about guns this is the next best thing but who the fuck is gonna fund it.Republican's solution is to turn our schools into supermax prisons.
No he's not. He knows exactly what he's doing. He's evil and knows his voters are stupid or evil themselves and don't give a shit.
If the shooter wasn't wearing body armor then that's quite the revelation. There was an entire skirmish outside the school and the police couldn't land a single shot?
So, unless you can actually click that link and confirm the quote in the second tweet, maybe we shouldn't post stuff like this from randos on Twitter. Yeah?
Because googling that information, the ONLY ones pushing it are this guy and Shaun King.
Also, honestly, the excuse "he had body armor!!!" is terrible anyway.
If anything it protects his vital organs in his chest for MAYBE 3-5 hits. Even then, those hits are gonna hurt. So if they hit him in the leg, arm, head, stomach, etc. it would have easily incapacitated him. Even if he did have body armor, it's doesn't make him nearly as invincible as people are making it sound.
Also depending on the guns the cops have, it likely would have punched right through the armor anyway. High caliber body armor is quite expensive and it's unlikely he would have the kind that could withstand more than a 9mm or something.
If anything it protects his vital organs in his chest for MAYBE 3-5 hits. Even then, those hits are gonna hurt. So if they hit him in the leg, arm, head, stomach, etc. it would have easily incapacitated him. Even if he did have body armor, it's doesn't make him nearly as invincible as people are making it sound.
Also depending on the guns the cops have, it likely would have punched right through the armor anyway. High caliber body armor is quite expensive and it's unlikely he would have the kind that could withstand more than a 9mm or something.
This is the article: https://nypost.com/2022/05/24/texas-shooter-shot-whoevers-in-his-way-in-school-police/
The quote is from a DPS lieutenant, and I would say from the way it's transcribed, people (and the article) are misinterpreting it. The preceding line misconstrues the direct quote. The quote is saying families were there with police officers trying to get their (the families') children out. That lines up with earlier reports that cops were breaking windows to get other children out of the building.
staff post - don't post unverified information
Official Staff Communication
So, this should go without saying, but random posters on Twitter ARE NOT valid news sources. Straight up, they aren't.
If a reporter is talking about their own reporting, work they've done themselves, that's one thing. But we all need to understand that every single dipshit on Twitter is going to be trying to use this horrible tragedy to get likes and retweets and grow their own following and as we all know, nobody on Twitter is above pushing bullshit in order to make that happen.
So, again, please be responsible when posting information and don't take Twitter randos at face value.
If a reporter is talking about their own reporting, work they've done themselves, that's one thing. But we all need to understand that every single dipshit on Twitter is going to be trying to use this horrible tragedy to get likes and retweets and grow their own following and as we all know, nobody on Twitter is above pushing bullshit in order to make that happen.
So, again, please be responsible when posting information and don't take Twitter randos at face value.
It's beyond clear the GOP has no conscience. The video won't sway them no matter how many times they sit through it.
Cops aren't trained for this but Rs wanna hand guns to teachers to stop school shootings. Fucking geniuses.
so you're trying to tell me body armor doesn't shoot back?
It's fair to be concerned if a shooter is well armed (which he was) and armored. But it's not that much more concerning than just a assailant with a gun. The body armor excuse falls pretty flat. It's MAYBE 1-2 get out of jail free cards if you get hit in the chest/back. After that it doesn't matter much.
im just picturing them yelling "HE HAS BODY ARMOR. RETREAT!!!"
Wow this is much better than a moment of silence.
At first I thought it was booing because it's Florida but they were cheering.
Police are constantly militarizing tho. They should be able to handle this. The fact that every time this shit goes to trial and every time supreme court rules cops aren't obligated to protect anyone should tell you all you need to know. These fuckers are worthless bullies.
I've been trying to avoid jumping to any conclusions but this is pretty terrible.
I fucking can't. "Good guy with a gun" narrative being destroyed again and again by this one shooting alone.
At this point the only thing that will affect US gun laws will be an entire generation of kids with first hand experience with mass shootings growing up to finally vote the change in.
I get training where cops come and shoot at me with a nerf gun while I flip desks over and throw beanbags at them, yet those same cops aren't even willing to enter a building to stop a shooter despite having tons of military equipment. Alright.
If the cops are too afraid to confront a shooter despite having massive arsenals, perhaps it truly is the access to guns that is a problem.
If the cops are too afraid to confront a shooter despite having massive arsenals, perhaps it truly is the access to guns that is a problem.
I have a sister who's about to enter 5th grade next year and it will also go back to being all in-person. Granted Hawaii hasn't had any school shootings, although we had like two scares back when I was even in High School, but still this shit scares me.
Fuck all cops, ACAB, and fuck every single Republicans too and anyone who's pro gun.
Fuck all cops, ACAB, and fuck every single Republicans too and anyone who's pro gun.
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Teachers in other states are striking. Texas teachers can't do that.
Texas state law says that teachers could lose their teaching certificates and pensions if they go on strike.
www.texastribune.org
States that do have (effective) unions should absolutely be organizing walkouts though anytime a school shooting happens, even if it isn't in their own state.
Cops only like to play cowboy when the other person is unarmed.
I'm a union teacher in another state and would absolutely support it. Sadly the union has been silent.Teachers in other states are striking. Texas teachers can't do that.
Texas state law says that teachers could lose their teaching certificates and pensions if they go on strike.
States that do have (effective) unions should absolutely be organizing walkouts though anytime a school shooting happens, even if it isn't in their own state.
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We need to have a proper discourse on this site about whether it's time to allow discussion about political violence. I dont see a way to stop the mass murder of children and minorities in this country without the sustained, targeted and nationwide use of violence against GOP elected officials. I wish the political system worked, but Im done burying my head in the sand, voting is pointless for real change and I'm tired of murdered kids. Nothing will change without violent revolution against the GOP in this country. Nonviolent means have failed, it's time for other options.
Should have noted I was being sarcastic there, but it's just absurd that I have to go through training on this at all.
I figured you were, but you never can quite tell for sure. And yeah sorry you have to endure that farcical training exercise.
the majority of the politicians are a bunch of sociopaths so they won't care. only thing that matters is holding on to their little bit of power.
Yeah, again, people want to blame the money, but in this situation, it really is the voters who are the problem.
Like, some restrictions would pass in a nationwide referendum, but some of the stuff people on this thread, including myself want, would go down in flames, especially after a sustained campaign.
Generally how it goes, narratives against the basic demand for gun reform get knocked down and just reveal how shallow anything else offered is.