Ace Combat 7: Skies Unknown |OT| Game of Drones

Siggy-P · Jan 21, 2019

Razgriz-Specter said:
story would have worked better imo if Avril(scrap queen) was in or eventually joined the actual flight squadron with Trigger

Yeah, it's a wasted opportunity. Especially when the very first cutscene shows her flying and talking about her grandfather's history. It's a shame she was instead shackled with whatever the hell the princess and Mihaly's storyline were supposed to be.

Cus out of the other striker squad members I only felt an attachment to was Count.

Hell I reckon it would have been cool to even possibly have Mihaly join near the end. I know he's the main rival but his death felt rather premature and uncermonious, plus he's the only other fighter pilot with any character development or story arc in the game. Have him sacrifice himself tlin the final mission to give Trigger a chance or something like that.

Zedelima · Jan 21, 2019

So whats wrong with SP right now? Saw a lot of people complaing about it (difficult spikes/not that good)

Railgun · Jan 21, 2019

Martinski said:
Even Dark Souls gmaes doesnt trigger me this much with dumb stuff. This isnt "resistance" to me, this is just shitty mission design tbh made to be frustrating as fuck. Doesnt help to have the radio chatter japping in your head which made me take my headset off.

If it's bothering you so much maybe you should play on a lower difficulty?

Mechaplum · Jan 21, 2019

Just finished AC5(one of the best games I've played!) so diving in again into 7. The music is amazing, that's some real pumping action in the opening movie and first mission. I need the OST.

Does anyone know what song is that in the opener? Will play this OST in my flight sims.

Chirotera · Jan 21, 2019

I'm liking the game a lot, but there are way too many special conditions in these missions. It's fine to have something neat and different to do every 3-4 missions to help break up the monotony. But every damn mission has a "but wait! there's more bullshit!" or "now it's fly through a canyon time for reasons!" "dodge the spotlights!"

This game is way more frustrating than any previous title. I don't know how I'll ever get all S ranks without wanting to pull my hair out.

No Depth · Jan 21, 2019

J_Viper said:
Can I go right into 5?

Definitely. Anything imperative from AC4 is covered and narrated to you.

J_Viper · Jan 21, 2019

No Depth said:
Definitely. Anything imperative from AC4 is covered and narrated to you.

Thanks!

I guess I'll go from 5 to 0, since the latter seems to emulate fine. Then I'll go through 6 before I start 7.

Hoping a patch rolls through in the meantime to fix some of these issues with frustrating difficulty. If not, I suppose I can just play on Easy.

endlessflood · Jan 21, 2019

J_Viper said:
Thanks!

I guess I'll go from 5 to 0, since the latter seems to emulate fine. Then I'll go through 6 before I start 7.

Hoping a patch rolls through in the meantime to fix some of these issues with frustrating difficulty. If not, I suppose I can just play on Easy.

I'm up to mission 11 on Easy, and so far it's been too easy. Maybe difficulty ramps up later though.

Deleted member 135 · Jan 21, 2019

Martinski said:
Even Dark Souls gmaes doesnt trigger me this much with dumb stuff. This isnt "resistance" to me, this is just shitty mission design tbh made to be frustrating as fuck. Doesnt help to have the radio chatter japping in your head which made me take my headset off.

You are supposed to listen to the radio chatter. It will tell you your objectives and areas you should focus on.

This isn't some modern bullshit game that holds your hand every step of the way. This is a proper classic arcade style game.

CielYoshi · Jan 21, 2019

One thing that may help: If the radio chatter has little flashing warning signs to the sides, it's a mission critical message, otherwise it's fluff.

Not Spaceghost · Jan 21, 2019

Chirotera said:
This game is way more frustrating than any previous title. I don't know how I'll ever get all S ranks without wanting to pull my hair out.

It gets a lot easier once you unlock high tier planes and good upgrade parts, even on hard and Ace difficulties.

MistaTwo · Jan 21, 2019

Honestly, I don't think it would be a proper AC game without some decent skill checks in the mission structure.

I ran into a few frustrating parts during my normal playthrough, but most of the time I realized that I could have made it easier by just approaching it with a different aircraft or weapon. A lot of times I ended up just brute forcing it with my current setup though.

A series like Ace Combat should absolutely have plenty of missions that really push the player to up their skills. It's called Ace Combat for a reason!

It definitely leans into the 'gimmicks' a lot more than I expected, but considering how great the weather effects look and feel I love that they seemed to take full advantage of them with the mission scenarios.

Hell, I would have added a mission where you had to escort a supply plane through radar blind spots during a raging blizzard or something.

endlessflood · Jan 21, 2019

SG-17 said:
You are supposed to listen to the radio chatter. It will tell you your objectives and areas you should focus on.

This isn't some modern bullshit game that holds your hand every step of the way. This is a proper classic arcade style game.

The problem with exposition through the radio chatter is that sometimes I'm a little bloody busy. Aviate, navigate, communicate, you know? I'd love to listen to your feelings but right now there's a warhead about to detonate next to my plane... :p

Siggy-P · Jan 21, 2019

Why do I get only 5 flares in my jets but 156 sidewinder missiles?

Deleted member 135 · Jan 21, 2019

Siggy-P said:
Why do I get only 5 flares in my jets but 156 sidewinder missiles?

Because flares are for last second "oh I'm fucked" situations (or for barrelling through hellfire to take out the very last objective if running out of time). You should be dodging missiles, not using your flares unless in a severe clutch.

Ultron · Jan 21, 2019

I hope the "Stand by..." at the end of the vr missions means they're gonna do more. Because they're so good! And I also really really wanna go against an Arsenal Bird or fly through tunnels or get into some real AC nonsense in VR.

Mechaplum · Jan 21, 2019

Siggy-P said:
Why do I get only 5 flares in my jets but 156 sidewinder missiles?

Because this game is designed around gameplay rather than realism.

endlessflood · Jan 21, 2019

Siggy-P said:
Why do I get only 5 flares in my jets but 156 sidewinder missiles?

Gründer Industries were running a special 'buy 30 sidewinders, get a free flare' promotion.

Wong Kar Why · Jan 21, 2019

mission 14 got me feeling like

Razgriz-Specter · Jan 21, 2019

Mechaplum said:
Just finished AC5(one of the best games I've played!) so diving in again into 7. The music is amazing, that's some real pumping action in the opening movie and first mission. I need the OST.

Does anyone know what song is that in the opener? Will play this OST in my flight sims.

Main bit is from "Daredevil" I think

endlessflood · Jan 21, 2019

Apologies if this was already posted, but AC7 had the best UK launch of any game in the series, entering at number 2 on their charts:

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-01-21-ace-combat-7-earned-the-series-best-uk-debut

MistaTwo · Jan 21, 2019

The one thing I want from this game post-launch is the PVE score attack mode from Infinity.
With the current multiplayer modes there is really no place to even use your attacker aircrafts which is too bad.

PBalfredo · Jan 22, 2019

Oh no!

Does AC5 not auto save after missions?

endlessflood · Jan 22, 2019

PBalfredo said:
Oh no!

Does AC5 not auto save after missions?

I don't know, I just saved after every mission regardless. It's a PS2 game, and not everyone had a memory card, so devs couldn't rely on one being there.

After each mission it takes you to the menu with the SAVE option on it, so I clicked that each time to save my game. And I did the same thing (save the game) before quitting too. Just in case.

Mechaplum · Jan 22, 2019

PBalfredo said:
Oh no!

Does AC5 not auto save after missions?

No, save often and save properly.

Razgriz-Specter said:
Main bit is from "Daredevil" I think

Thanks!

Not Spaceghost · Jan 22, 2019

PBalfredo said:
Does AC5 not auto save after missions?

Nope AC5 is pure manual save.

ScaleboundGOTY · Jan 22, 2019

Has anyone figured out the vr unlocks yet? So far i have the su-30m2 for completing the missions in normal, and the a-10 for s ranking mission 1 on easy. How do you get the f-22?

Interficium · Jan 22, 2019

PBalfredo said:
Oh no!

Does AC5 not auto save after missions?

i feel old now

endlessflood · Jan 22, 2019

Interficium said:
i feel old now

we are old now

Mechaplum · Jan 22, 2019

endlessflood said:
we are old now

Old dogs of war.

Martinski · Jan 22, 2019

Railgun said:
If it's bothering you so much maybe you should play on a lower difficulty?

Not gonna replay 12 missions on easy lol. Anyway managed to cool my head by watching true detective and then do it by having standard control scheme on instead. It wobble less when aiming then...

Mechaplum · Jan 22, 2019

giancarlo123x said:
Big ol submarine in the ice.

Just target the submarine name and spam missiles, you can ignore the AAs and SAMs.

PBalfredo · Jan 22, 2019

endlessflood said:
I don't know, I just saved after every mission regardless. It's a PS2 game, and not everyone had a memory card, so devs couldn't rely on one being there.

After each mission it takes you to the menu with the SAVE option on it, so I clicked that each time to save my game. And I did the same thing (save the game) before quitting too. Just in case.

Part of the problem was that I tricked myself into thinking it had auto save by putting the ps4 into rest mode when I was done playing. The system remembered where I left off, until I quit to play AC7...

Polyh3dron · Jan 22, 2019

Argus said:
I like the game for the [MISSLE] most part, but [MISSLE] it has some rough edges that I [MISSLE] dont like. Such as [MISSLE] the same story mistake [MISSLE] of AC6 with spending too much [MISSLE] time jumping points of view, and too [MISSLE] many jumps of logic in character motivations, all told [MISSLE] in the middle of frantic missions. The missions also [MISSLE] seemed WAY too tuned for tons of enemies, and [MISSLE] far too many missions seem nearly done, when [MISSLE] more enemies show up, often when you are out of missles. The game isn't even all THAT hard, but [MISSLE] it throws far too many enemies that keep shooting at you, and you have to ignore them [MISSLE] because you are on a strict time/middle limit to complete mission important objectives. Instead [MISSLE] of throwing 12 enemies at me that hit 2% of the [MISSLE] time, why don't you send 2-3 against me, that hit 10% of the [MISSLE] time?

The soundtrack may be the best the series has ever been, I hope they release the orginal versions and not the remixes that play in this game that have "MISSLE" said in them every 3 seconds.

It's [MISSILE] spelled "missile".

JCH! · Jan 22, 2019

How do you use flares? I beat the game twice now and I've never used them lol. Never felt I needed them as they're not a mechanic in AC5/0.

Heshinsi · Jan 22, 2019

JCH! said:
How do you use flares? I beat the game twice now and I've never used them lol. Never felt I needed them as they're not a mechanic in AC5/0.

Click both thumb stick at the same time. I too had to google it lol.

hanshen · Jan 22, 2019

Just finished the game, loved it.
Although fuck the last part of the last mission.

fought the drone 20 times because I could figure out how to get into the space elevator.

Railgun · Jan 22, 2019

Martinski said:
Not gonna replay 12 missions on easy lol. Anyway managed to cool my head by watching true detective and then do it by having standard control scheme on instead. It wobble less when aiming then...

It's absolutely ridiculous you can't quit and change the mission difficulty until you've finished the campaign or restart from scratch.

Jockel · Jan 22, 2019

Heshinsi said:
So in the span of 24hrs I've gone from having no codes sent to me, to having two separate Amazon promotional department employees send me codes. I received one in the morning which I have redeemed, and another one just recently that I can give to anyone who hasn't received their codes yet. I'm in Canada, so I'm sure the codes are good for at least North American stores. If you need a code let me know, and I'll PM the first person to ask. Oh and this a PS4 code that gives you the three skins, airplane, and Ace Combat 5.

If nobody took you up on this yet, I would very much like it. I preordered from base and still didn't receive my copy and I don't even know if it'll come with a code. If I end up with a spare I'll give it away too.

Heshinsi · Jan 22, 2019

Jockel said:
If nobody took you up on this yet, I would very much like it. I preordered from base and still didn't receive my copy and I don't even know if it'll come with a code. If I end up with a spare I'll give it away too.

I'm sorry, it was claimed. I had just edited my post right before you quoted me.

Crash331 · Jan 22, 2019

NESpowerhouse said:
Damn, mission 11 is kicking my ass. Destroying shit isn't the hard part, I just keep accidentally colliding with stuff and getting shot down by AA fire

Is that the naval fleet mission? I took the F-18 with anti ship mussels. Destroy the carrier first and all of the ships around it. Don't go after aircraft except easy targets like apaches and harriers. I then headed up to the top platform, but I only killed the ships again. You can shoot down the cargo planes since they are slow. Then I headed to the bay and shot the ships there. I never even shot at the platforms, just ignored them, and I had about 7k more points than needed.

Crash331 · Jan 22, 2019

Not Spaceghost said:
It's easy with the A-10s 4AGMs, you can carry up to 50 with upgrades. But you need to have your positioning down since you're pretty slow.

True EZ mode is the f-35 though.

I did it with the a-10 pretty easily. The ground targets were a breeze and I went after bombers and helicopters first. During the last phase I just ignored the drones and shot up tbe propellers with the cannon.

SirKai · Jan 22, 2019

So, the other day I complained pretty harshly in this thread about mean the difficulty spike was for Mission 7. While I'd still not love to replay that mission anytime soon, I revisited it today with a cooler disposition and the advice other posters pointed out and beat it immediately. It was still tough, but I did my best to correct my poor playing habits, and it seems to have paid off. I've just finished Mission 12, and while the missions are routinely challenging, they're just tense and demanding enough to keep me on the edge of my seat while not being too frustrating. I've done a complete 180 in opinion on the game's difficulty.

Thanks to the advice and encouragement everyone offered, because I gotta say this game is spectacular. Every mission is varied, wildly intense, and feels supremely badass and fun. I came for the story but am totally hooked by how riveting and fun the gameplay is. I even hopped online and did a few matches there (and will continue to play online since you get cash so much faster lol).

Anyway, I knew AC7 would be solid but I'm totally blown away by just how good it is. I hope it gets the recognition and sales it deserves, because it's a solid 9/10 for me so far.

L4DANathan · Jan 22, 2019

Just completed my "take no damage" run. It was hell, I do not recommend.

Tortillo VI · Jan 22, 2019

L4DANathan said:
Just completed my "take no damage" run. It was hell, I do not recommend.

Do you get a message in the debriefing confirming that you did not take any damage? Can you do it in free mission or you need to start a new campaign? What difficulty did you do it in? Sorry for all the questions but I'm preparing to do this after the 'complete campaign in less than four hours' medal. I need your experience!

Valkerion · Jan 22, 2019

It's doing it boys and girls!

Ace Combat 7 is selling through a ton of copies, estimated at over 100k already in Japan alone over the weekend. Out of stock in a good number of places, and supposedly a second wave of copies has already sold out at Yodobashi Camera (one of Japan's biggest electronics stores) It's even out of stock until next week on Amazon.jp! Also debuted at #2 in the UK supposedly.

Also, while twitter compression ruined this picture quality I just cannot get over the clouds in this game. Been looking at the snaps I took on PS4, game looks insane in some of them. Probably gonna double dip for PC later in the year.

endlessflood · Jan 22, 2019

Crash331 said:
Is that the naval fleet mission? I took the F-18 with anti ship mussels. Destroy the carrier first and all of the ships around it. Don't go after aircraft except easy targets like apaches and harriers. I then headed up to the top platform, but I only killed the ships again. You can shoot down the cargo planes since they are slow. Then I headed to the bay and shot the ships there. I never even shot at the platforms, just ignored them, and I had about 7k more points than needed.

I'm just about to start this. I was planning to take the Gripen E with long range cruise missiles, will see how it goes.

Valkerion said:
Ace Combat 7 is selling through a ton of copies, estimated at over 100k already in Japan alone over the weekend. Out of stock in a good number of places, and supposedly a second wave of copies has already sold out at Yodobashi Camera (one of Japan's biggest electronics stores) It's even out of stock until next week on Amazon.jp! Also debuted at #2 in the UK supposedly.

The #2 debut in the UK isn't a rumour, Eurogamer is reporting it:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ac...ot-game-of-drones.93925/page-44#post-17103848

-Amon- · Jan 22, 2019

Reminder for everyone using a Playstation brand headset : there is an audio profile available for AC7.

Update the app if the AC7 profile is nowhere to be found when you launch it.

-Amon- · Jan 22, 2019

I love free flight mode, i really do, but i would really like to be able to takeoff and land on the airports / aircraft carriers present in the map.

Having a tanker around to refuel would be nice too.

GrrImAFridge · Jan 22, 2019

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