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According to Epic Games, Hellblade 2 trailer was running in real-time
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Maybe next gen, sure, but this gen, some of the best looking UE games I've seen were Final Fantasy VIIR and Days Gone.
It's impressive but I wouldn't read too much into it just yet. Compare the models in UC4 cutscenes to the ones in gameplay and there's a big difference. I'm pretty sure there's a video from ND artists where they state that the cutscene model for Drake uses three times the number of polygons that the gameplay one does despite both being real time.
"more organic"
Lmao. Just say you like that game more, nobody is going to judge you; though I absolutely disagree with you.
i'm poking fan at sony + epic = paid pr and xbox + epic = real thing i knew it all along.
That's a very cynical take. People working at all these companies have a lot of passion, it is a business, but that doesn't mean people don actually get excited. I mean, have you seen those demoes? They speak for themselves, they really do look amazing.
There's nothing cynical about recognizing that a company that sells software made for making games on the new hardware would publicly hype said new hardware. In no reality is Epic not excited about it.
Yeah, pretty sure it was mentioned the same day the trailer dropped.
This is seemingly just the first time Epic has mentioned the Unreal 5 game I guess (how old is this clip?).
I just hope they don't mess with the gameplay formula. I'm concerned Ninja Theory is going to make Hellblade 2 into a full Souls-like game to make it more accessible (and mainly because Sony kind of has a monopoly on Souls games including three exclusive ones in Demon's Souls, Bloodborne, and Nioh), and that's not what the game is about.
UE5 is not out yet though... I never understood the special privileges some studios get. Are they co-owned by EPIC? Or partnered?
Epic collaborated with Ninja Theory during Hellblade's development to demonstrate some of the new tech they were working on for UE4.
It was a right time right place sort of scenario with Hellblade being a showcase title for UE4 and my guess is that they want the sequel to be a UE5 showcase.
https://www.engadget.com/2017/08/08/ninja-theory-hellblade-motion-capture-demo-video/
Posting this its from the making of the first Hellblade and that they used prototype motion capture tech to create Senua. Reading this I truly believe with Microsoft now fully behind them they could be industry leading in visuals going forward.
Posting this its from the making of the first Hellblade and that they used prototype motion capture tech to create Senua. Reading this I truly believe with Microsoft now fully behind them they could be industry leading in visuals going forward.
Owned by Microsoft/Xbox, but they have partnered with Epic in the past so no doubt they have lots of friends and mutuals there.
Yea, I remember that. Still doesn't explain why Ninja Theory though...
That goes for a lot of UE developed studios, but most still don't get those sorts of privileges.
As I said in my edit, most likely because Hellblade 1 was a UE4 showcase. Epic most likely expects it to be THE UE5 showcase title since they're aiming for movie like visuals. Like tech demos and short films are one thing but Hellblade 2 will be a full game.
Agreed. The only thing that I'll truly accept as indicative of gameplay is . . . actual gameplay. It's very simple. Until then, I never get carried away with orchestrated, in-game presentations because they tend to look noticeably better than what you actually play.
More organic many more details on the screen ? Hellblade is just a face.... Yes I think graphics on Horizon 2 is the most incredible thing we saw until now with a never seen level of details on the screen.
And if you read what I said is just MY opinion.
Next question: was it running on PC or next-gen hardware?
Yes, Digital Foundry.
Or they are capable of understanding that one game is vying for photorealistic visuals and the others are very much stylized. There's not too much that you can even directly compare because of these different approaches to rendering, so it's a bit dishonest to say stuff like this.
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There would be no reason for them to make this a 'real time' trailer instead of an in-engine render, as it would be much easier to have the scene, record a bunch of different cameras, and then send that to editorial.
That doesn't mean it couldn't run at real time or look as good, it just makes sense to get a better quality export using the in-engine renderer rather than doing a video capture.
TLDR : It's going to look good and how you output a trailer really doesn't matter.
That doesn't mean it couldn't run at real time or look as good, it just makes sense to get a better quality export using the in-engine renderer rather than doing a video capture.
TLDR : It's going to look good and how you output a trailer really doesn't matter.
Gears 5 Was significantly more impressive as an UE showcase than Days Gone, as noted by Digital Foundry.
Gears 5 is technically above those its not comparable imo. 4k/60fps, especially with the fidelity Gears runs at, is crazy. Even DF spoke of it as one if the best looking games on PC made.
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Ninja Theory definitely have (or will have soon) access to the latest UE5 version as they will be contributing to make the engine run better on Xbox platforms. Who would be more than fitting to do the heavy lifting than a platform owner's own studios (especially for xbox game studios, where so many of them use unreal engine) ?
So, it's not really a privilege. As you said Hevy008, random indie studio (and even big studios) would not benefit from having UE5 right now. But they will benefit from Ninja Theory (and others) having it early when Epic releases UE5 to the public and it has been optimised for Xbox platforms.
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I think the amount of enemies is really impressive in Days gone, but considering Gears 5 runs with 60FPS looking as good as it does, TC are really UE experts.
I think it'll be indicative of the cutscenes in thr game. But gameplay models are always lower quality.
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I'm sorry but with how inconsistent and the muddy looking PS2 textures, I can't call Ff7R one of the best looking UE games when you can go from PS4 high quality textures to Ps2 ones in the same level.
I honestly think Days Gone is far more impressive than Gears 5 running maxed out on my PC. Days Gone looks incredible, the environments in Gears 5 look really unimpressive, probably to maintain high frame rate on console.
It didn't? Just out of curiosity what would you consider impressive?
The only thing that has looked more impressive than the Hellblade 2 trailer so far, imo, is the UE5 demo,
The PS5 UE5 demo. That knocked my socks off. The instant switching of high fidelity worlds in the Ratched and Clank: Rift Apart demo also impressed me.
The Hellblade 2 demo doesn't look bad at all, I'm just not as impressed by it. The environment shots look great, but we live in a post Death Stranding world where near photoreal, photogrammetry based environments are already a thing.
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This, I'm sure Hellblade 2 will look excellent when it comes out, but I can already envision the "DOWNGRADE" thread because the lighting or character models or something aren't as good as the reveal.
Is this alien race called mountain?
I love FF7R, but you are absolutely right. The game can look really impressive. However it has to many flaws in a lot of levels to be considered in the top5 of UE games this gen.
The trailer for this looks better than anything else shown thus far, including UE5's tech demo. Nothing else comes close to it.
Just unbelievable.
Edit: genuinely lmao at thinking HB2 isn't "that impressive" graphically.
Just unbelievable.
Edit: genuinely lmao at thinking HB2 isn't "that impressive" graphically.
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I get that you don't believe any studios are getting access to UE5 any soon but I don't understand the second part at all. Where did I have ever said anything about NT only using Vanilla Unreal (or any other studio for that matter)?