What about Orso? I like him a lot but I feel like he's got ridiculous luck in TTwP. Makes me feel like Bayaz is gonna fuck him up real good next book
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What about Orso? I like him a lot but I feel like he's got ridiculous luck in TTwP. Makes me feel like Bayaz is gonna fuck him up real good next book
I imagine he's at the top of the rollercoaster and things are about to go down.
Tried taking my time with the book and not rushing, and god damn this was such a fantastic read. I'm seeing very little mention of Rikke in the comments above. but
So many chapters were such great reads. Can't wait for the next book.
I hated what was happening to her, but I loved reading the chapters, so well written. I think this was a common thread and I guess is a big common thread in Abercrombie books, you do not like what is happening but it both makes sense, and is still a great read.
Also, Zuri is an eater right? the bandages under her clothes and all?
Also, Zuri is an eater right? the bandages under her clothes and all?
So many chapters were such great reads. Can't wait for the next book.
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Finished The Trouble With Peace yesterday... it was very good.
I have to say, some of the characters aren't quite as good for me as many from Joe's previous works - though obviously a real verdict in this sense will be possible only when the new trilogy is complete - but I think the plot here is much better (and gripping) than that of the first trilogy, so in the end my overall appreciation is pretty much the same. There have been moments where I just couldn't put the book down, I don't remember that happening with his other books.
I can't wait to see what's in store for many characters, but Leo in particular. I really like him as a character (a complete dumbass, but a very entertaining one), and the situation he's in at the end of the book is certainly... interesting
And now, the wait begins for The Wisdom Of Crowds... It'll take a while. I may go back to the ever so uplifting Bakker books...
FAKE EDIT: Coincidentally, just before posting this message I went to Joe's site and I found out to my surprise that he's already revealed the blurb of the third book:
I have to say, some of the characters aren't quite as good for me as many from Joe's previous works - though obviously a real verdict in this sense will be possible only when the new trilogy is complete - but I think the plot here is much better (and gripping) than that of the first trilogy, so in the end my overall appreciation is pretty much the same. There have been moments where I just couldn't put the book down, I don't remember that happening with his other books.
I can't wait to see what's in store for many characters, but Leo in particular. I really like him as a character (a complete dumbass, but a very entertaining one), and the situation he's in at the end of the book is certainly... interesting
And now, the wait begins for The Wisdom Of Crowds... It'll take a while. I may go back to the ever so uplifting Bakker books...
FAKE EDIT: Coincidentally, just before posting this message I went to Joe's site and I found out to my surprise that he's already revealed the blurb of the third book:
Chaos. Fury. Destruction.
The Great Change is upon us . . .
Some say that to change the world you must first burn it down. Now that belief will be tested in the crucible of revolution: the Breakers and Burners have seized the levers of power, the smoke of riots has replaced the smog of industry, and all must submit to the wisdom of crowds.
With nothing left to lose, Citizen Brock is determined to become a new hero for the new age, while Citizeness Savine must turn her talents from profit to survival before she can claw her way to redemption. Orso will find that when the world is turned upside down, no one is lower than a monarch. And in the bloody North, Rikke and her fragile Protectorate are running out of allies . . . while Black Calder gathers his forces and plots his vengeance.
The banks have fallen, the sun of the Union has been torn down, and in the darkness behind the scenes, the threads of the Weaver's ruthless plan are slowly being drawn together . . .
The Great Change is upon us . . .
Some say that to change the world you must first burn it down. Now that belief will be tested in the crucible of revolution: the Breakers and Burners have seized the levers of power, the smoke of riots has replaced the smog of industry, and all must submit to the wisdom of crowds.
With nothing left to lose, Citizen Brock is determined to become a new hero for the new age, while Citizeness Savine must turn her talents from profit to survival before she can claw her way to redemption. Orso will find that when the world is turned upside down, no one is lower than a monarch. And in the bloody North, Rikke and her fragile Protectorate are running out of allies . . . while Black Calder gathers his forces and plots his vengeance.
The banks have fallen, the sun of the Union has been torn down, and in the darkness behind the scenes, the threads of the Weaver's ruthless plan are slowly being drawn together . . .
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Since this is kind of a de-facto Abercrombie OT, I might as well share this here:
Joe Abercrombie - The Year in Review
Summary:
- NYE is actually his birthday lol
- He's already got a preliminary start on his new project, but it's a new world/setting/concept entirely and will take some time to finally take off
- He watched a lot of TV
- Gaming-wise he liked TLoU2 and Ghost of Tsushima the most, it seems
- Last but not least... Vol. 3 of the Age of Madness, "The Wisdom of Crowds", is on track for September 2021 as planned.
Joe Abercrombie - The Year in Review
Summary:
- NYE is actually his birthday lol
- He's already got a preliminary start on his new project, but it's a new world/setting/concept entirely and will take some time to finally take off
- He watched a lot of TV
- Gaming-wise he liked TLoU2 and Ghost of Tsushima the most, it seems
- Last but not least... Vol. 3 of the Age of Madness, "The Wisdom of Crowds", is on track for September 2021 as planned.
New project eh? Kind of disappointed that it won't be more first law. There's no way he can finish up everything in just one more book (meaning on a global scale, between the magis - not just the current storylines in this particular trilogy). Maybe he never intended to?
It was never intended to finish the whole storyline. And I don't think he's done with the first law world for good.
He did write the shattered sea which is completely disconnected from the first law world before he started with this new trilogy so I expect something similar here.
Think the whole saga is definitely more long term.
Maybe he'll do another standalone or two
excerpt from The Wisdom of Crowds via GollanczFest
transcript via reddit - https://old.reddit.com/r/TheFirstLa...om_of_crowds_excerpt_from_the_little/gsfvigy/
transcript via reddit - https://old.reddit.com/r/TheFirstLa...om_of_crowds_excerpt_from_the_little/gsfvigy/
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God damn. I cannot wait for the conclusion to this trilogy!
Can't wait for the finish. And his next project. I skipped shattered sea because I'm not at all interested in YA stuff even if it's from him
It's really not all that YA. Odd it even gets that tag really. Plenty of sex and murder.
Mayyyybe the first book is YAish? Maybe? Definitely not the 2nd and 3rd imo
Interesting. I'm glad you let me know, may just read them after all
i enjoyed the first Shattered Sea until like literally the last ten pages. left me feeling kind of deflated and not too interested in continuing right away. i'll read the next one at some point though
i moved on to Assassin's Apprentice after that and i absolutely loved it. probably going to read all 12+ or whatever of those before anything else now
i moved on to Assassin's Apprentice after that and i absolutely loved it. probably going to read all 12+ or whatever of those before anything else now
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I echo the recommendation. The only "YA" aspect, really, is that the main cast is relatively young and it's not quite as "edgy" as First Law stuff (there's sex and violence, but it's not as graphic and there's less profanity in general, though there is some). It's not a sanitized story or anything, it's just a bit tamer than Abercrombie's ultra-grimdark stuff hehe
And it's just really damn good overall, definitely worth a read.
I've said this before but the main character from the 2nd book is one of my favorite characters of all time. That's over 40 years of fantasy reading!
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I've been stuck on The Heroes. Started it twice and havent made it past the first or second chapter. This is one of JA's best books right?
Damn. Y'all got me hype as fuck. Abercrombie is one of my favorite authors working today. I'm thrilled to realize I can read some more. I'm not even a big fantasy person but God damn I love his work
Without question, but I'm not sure how well it hits if you're not as familiar with some of the characters and his style. I find his grimdark/humor takes some bathing in before it clicks that it's not just another angry bloody fantasy book. When it does though oof. He's one of the few authors today, working in any genre, that consistently makes me laugh out loud
I read his first trilogy as well as Best Served Cold. For some reason just bounced off Heroes.
I don't even like battles and it's up there as one of my favorite books. Then again I will devour anything Abercrombie. Love his writing.
Thorn Bathu right? She's awesome. I made her in Dark Souls 2 lol
Yes. That's awesome!
Super early into the Trouble with peace but when it comes to Leo dan Brock
I just cannot believe how stupid he is, I get that's the point of him but he is just so much more stupid than everyone else in the book. Was dying laughing at the double wedding though where the other bride was telling Savine how much she wished she had more 'grit' and Savine was just like "Would you like some drugs".
Im only like, 20% through The Blade Itself so I havent read any spoilers in this thread but I have a general question because I kinda stopped reading since the book did seem very dude centric in an of putting way. Not exactly sexist but I was getting some vibes and reading the thread title made me curious. Am I totally off base here?
This is something the author has acknowledge about the first books, as is quoted in the OP. I'd say to keep with it, they're great books, and they just get better. both in prose and representation imo.
I'd say read the first quote in the OP for the authors thoughts on this, second quote in OP could include spoilers.
Edit: The quote in question if you don't want to accidentally see spoilers in OP :)
Appreciate the cleanup. The books were recommended by a colleague that I knew struggled with "woke" points of view (hes improved a lot in that area since) and like I said, while reading it I was like "well I wouldave loved this when I was 18 lol, but this feels a bit cringey now" But it seems like I should keep up with it, so I will. Thanks again!
I'm about 30% through and it's good stuff. I really wasn't expecting Abercrombie to reveal ISPOLER]bayaz actually has an evil twin, who in his case is good, and now good bayaz is using his magic to ensure a socialist utopia in Adua while evil Bayaz keeps yelling how he's gonna make Angland great again[[/ISPOILER]. It's a bit weird, but we'll see where this plotline goes.
Whew... Good thing I'm on desktop. Stopped reading his post when I saw the broken tag. If I was on mobile my eyes would have catched it all.
Book starts off with a bang.
Love Abercrombie so much. Crazy to think that this series was all pretty much finished by the time the first book was published and he's likely been writing other books for the past three years, and then while those books are being published, he's probably writing even more. lol
Great way to keep stuff coming.
Love Abercrombie so much. Crazy to think that this series was all pretty much finished by the time the first book was published and he's likely been writing other books for the past three years, and then while those books are being published, he's probably writing even more. lol
Great way to keep stuff coming.
Are you me? Abercrombie and Hobb are my favorite writers and I feel exactly the same about the first book of the Shattered Sea.
I hope you're enjoying the subsequent Hobb's books, for me is the best fantasy series out there (the 16 of them).
Edit: O the Abercrombie front I just did I reread of the first 6 books + Sharp Ends and I'm halfway through The Trouble with Peace...I didn't time it well enough to coincide with the release of The Wisdom of Crowds but what can you do :P
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Just finished up Sanderson's Rhythm of War. I've had A Little Hatred sitting here for awhile. Now that the trilogy is fully released, I think it's finally time to delve into this. Abercrombie is always amazing so my hopes are high.
I haven't read his YA series though (read first law trilogy, best served cold, heroes, and red country). Should I be reading that series before this newest trilogy? Does it matter at all?
I haven't read his YA series though (read first law trilogy, best served cold, heroes, and red country). Should I be reading that series before this newest trilogy? Does it matter at all?
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The YA series is unrelated so you can jump straight into A Little Hatred if you want. Though I do recommend checking out Shattered Sea anyway because it's very good!
Picked this up the other day but haven't gotten around to starting it yet. Can't wait though. The wait for new Abercrombie books is always tough. I need him in my life at least twice a year lol
I consistently forget about Abercrombie until his new books come out and then I'm reminded that he's one of my favorite authors. It's such a good way to enjoy an unfinished series since I always get to be delightfully surprised when the next book comes out.
Just ordered, excited to dig in on Saturday!
Just ordered, excited to dig in on Saturday!
Finishing up sharp ends now too. Looking forward to this. Got my wife to read Abercrombie and she blew past me and is starting this one now.
