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ABC interviewed Trump supporters now that the dust has settled...it went as well as you expected
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"Fake news" was such a powerful tool and so detrimental to this country. "Anything I don't want to believe is fake and I need absolutely no proof" there is no reasoning here. Of course it has always existed in some form but never as blatantly as it does now.
Trump wins: Let's go talk to Trump supporters about that.
Trump loses: Let's go talk to Trump supporters about that.
Trump loses: Let's go talk to Trump supporters about that.
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I really want some interviewer to ask them if they knew this was how Hitler came to power - by delegitimizing the press.
But I'm also sort of afraid of what the answers will be.
The news likes that down-home, folksy, "Real American" bullshit.
My father in law (in the U.K.) is one of these. He thinks Trump won 80%! of the votes, all the postal votes were fraudulent and Trump is sitting on the evidence for three or so weeks before he releases it. When asked why he's waiting three weeks there's no real reason given, obvs.
He said as well that he doesn't watch any TV news anymore but gets it all from YouTube as it resonates more with him.
He's sent me some of the stuff he watches and it's as batshit crazy as you can think.
He said as well that he doesn't watch any TV news anymore but gets it all from YouTube as it resonates more with him.
He's sent me some of the stuff he watches and it's as batshit crazy as you can think.
IT's because the news media likes to treat this group as "The other" and of course it makes them feel emboldened to be wrong
"I just lost my cousin to Covid, but I dont believe all the pre-cautions are worth it."
Yep, those are Trump voters.
Yep, those are Trump voters.
Weren't Trump voters "the silent majority" in 2016? And now these guys are shocked that Biden won because he didn't have boat and truck parades and his supporters don't obnoxious campaign T-shirts and hats. lol.
I'm telling you, this is step one, attempting to rehabilitate/empathize the Trumpers, step 2 will be carrying water for their arguments and framing them at Biden as legit grievances their administration must answer for. That any attempt to allow justice to happen to the prior administration will be shaded with bad faith water carrying of right wing accusations of political hackery and unjust motive, moving centrists back into the space where they think Democrats are going too far, therefore once again driving Democrats to think that simply forgiving and forgetting is how the country needs to move forward...even as that same Republicangroup is emboldening their illiberalism and anti-democratic, violent language.
This is exactly what happened at the end of Bush and during the rise of the Tea Party and its utter fucking poison to our democracy and discourse.
The media is by and large driven by conflict, sensationalism, and a reflexive sensitivity and overcompensation to their bad faith right wing critics accusing them of bias, to the point much of the media pre-empts it these days by rushing to cover Republicans and hyper boost the few arguments that don't immediately crumble apart.
This is exactly what happened at the end of Bush and during the rise of the Tea Party and its utter fucking poison to our democracy and discourse.
The media is by and large driven by conflict, sensationalism, and a reflexive sensitivity and overcompensation to their bad faith right wing critics accusing them of bias, to the point much of the media pre-empts it these days by rushing to cover Republicans and hyper boost the few arguments that don't immediately crumble apart.
Urgh, the media needs to stop platforming the bullshit. There's no "both sides". There's a domestic terrorist anti-science death cult, and we need to see their message brushed away so it can't spread like some kind of viru........oh.
Trying to squeeze a redemption arc out of racist whites and their tap-dancing friends is more important than leaving them behind, because it staves off the uncomfortable reality that these people are consciously irredeemable, and otherwise empathetic white people who voted for Biden cannot handle the consequences of just how legitimately horrible their own family and acquaintances are. As a result, there is a legit emotional demand for these repetitive-ass stories, hence why news media keeps airing and publishing them. It's also why you will never see similar op-eds regarding minorities and white liberals/leftists who voted for Biden. While there is a long-term need for a media landscape that reflects the reality that we are the majority, there isn't the same emotional crisis with us. There's no redemption arc to be had, no sliver of hope that we can be pulled from the edge of depravity, and thus no story. (Also, no one really, truly cares about black and brown people regardless, but that goes without saying. Herpaderp.)
How about stop asking dumb questions and go back to reaching across the aisle to people who are opposed to your very existence, like the rest of us very civil people?
Tired of all these Trump voter profiles. It's fucking stupid that Trump lost and media is still trying to feed off this shit
Reminds me awhile back when msnbc was interviewed an anti abortion nut walking door to door and just let her lie without questioning any of it.
In that clip why did she not explain why masks DO work?? Why do they always just smile and nod???
The mask isn't stopping the microscopic virus itself, its stopping the droplets that carry the virus.
And while yes, masks are only partially effective, if 2 people wearing masks come near each other, the masks are 75% more effective
(because any droplets etc would have to pass through 2 masks)
The mask isn't stopping the microscopic virus itself, its stopping the droplets that carry the virus.
And while yes, masks are only partially effective, if 2 people wearing masks come near each other, the masks are 75% more effective
(because any droplets etc would have to pass through 2 masks)
engagement, clicks, shares, comments, $$$ drives stories, not the public interest
this story got your attention, you reacted, you shared it, and now its further distributed.
thats why
this story got your attention, you reacted, you shared it, and now its further distributed.
thats why
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If the media would just blackout trump and his dumbass supporters, that'll be a good start.
You fucking lost bro. Hold the L and swallow that salt.
You fucking lost bro. Hold the L and swallow that salt.
The LA Times. ABC. Do they just have a consensus rotation where they each take turns empowering the Trump backers who live in their own fantasy land? Will these media empires not be satisfied until they've successfully destroyed American democracy by empowering would-be fascists to become their heroes?
And when can the progressive left start protesting the media for not deplatforming these people? Because it sounds to me like the answer is never.
And when can the progressive left start protesting the media for not deplatforming these people? Because it sounds to me like the answer is never.
The answer to your question is no.
This is why I stopped giving money to NPR - they keep legitimizing nonsense by giving people a reputable(ish) platform to spew their garbage and the only pushback they give is some meek protest that the interviewee plows right through.
They'll turn every minor gaffe into a kids in cages level scandal without hesitation.
They'll turn every minor gaffe into a kids in cages level scandal without hesitation.
Quoting for visibility. This was especially noticeable to me when white SNL members brought their (trump-loving) mothers on-stage on mother's day 2018 for the cold open skit. Not sure 100% those parents were genuine Trump supporters, but it rang true regardless.
People will stand by their badly-behaving family members.Just because they're shitty to POCs and every conceivable minority doesn't mean they're "bad people". After all, they're nice to them, their own blood.
People that have never traveled beyond the county feed store in one direction and their neighbor's field in the other.
The NPR politics podcast has become unlistenable the last four years. Just constant normalisation to the point I think NPR would sleepwalk right into a fascist state without even noticing.
