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"A Man's got to go his own way, a friend taught me that." "Not just a friend..." "..A partner" *HAND SHAKE*
- Thread starter Sketchsanchez
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It's better than people remember. It's very stupid and silly in plenty of ways, but it does actually try to tell a story about Bruce redefining why he chose (and continues to choose) to be Batman. You just have to accept the camp aesthetic.
we've had damn near 20 years of gritty and grittier batman, its time for some camp!
And then he did it again with B&R a few years later though while just as homoerotic wasn't a hit.
But hey
I really enjoyed Forever as a kid and even revisiting it here and there (and recently) as an adult, I still think it does a lot well. It's not perfect and can be goofy, but it still has enough in the serious side of things that I think it does well. B&R goes more full blown Saturday morning cartoon which I think is still fun if nothing else.
But in Forever I do enjoy the psychology and trauma/grief they try to address, Bruce reconciling the Bruce/Batman duality with the choice and acceptance of being Batman ("Not because I have to be, now, because I choose to be"), and trusting others. Even in the sequel, Batman is much more at peace with himself.
If Batman Begins was "my anger outweighs my guilt" then Forever is the flip side of that, especially when talking down Robin from murdering Two-Face. Neat themes imo.
But in Forever I do enjoy the psychology and trauma/grief they try to address, Bruce reconciling the Bruce/Batman duality with the choice and acceptance of being Batman ("Not because I have to be, now, because I choose to be"), and trusting others. Even in the sequel, Batman is much more at peace with himself.
If Batman Begins was "my anger outweighs my guilt" then Forever is the flip side of that, especially when talking down Robin from murdering Two-Face. Neat themes imo.
B&R is always appreciated in my book
Kilmer and Clooney having the most heartfelt Batman moments in decades still gets me to this day.
No lol. It's very mediocre and overproduced with a few decent moments peppered in.
Though IIRC that wasn't even his intention and he felt like people only read that into the movies because he was gay.
Yep
They actually play off the Burton stuff better than people remember
It's, honestly, still my favorite of that era of 4 Batman movies. Returns is right after it. It wore its heart on its sleeve and did everything right.
Batman & Robin, conversely, is absolute shit in nearly every way imaginable. It doubled down on the silly camp but did it all wrong, has the worst Bruce and Batman, the worst attempt at a plot, the most wasted villains, the worst score and the worst suits.
And then they effed up Batgirl, which is a sin I cannot forgive.
Batman & Robin, conversely, is absolute shit in nearly every way imaginable. It doubled down on the silly camp but did it all wrong, has the worst Bruce and Batman, the worst attempt at a plot, the most wasted villains, the worst score and the worst suits.
And then they effed up Batgirl, which is a sin I cannot forgive.
Remember the deleted scene when he was going to come face to face with a giant animatronic bat as metaphor of reembracing his identity as Batman, but also fulfilling this hanging narrative thread about his dad's red journal?
Batman Forever - Deleted Scene: Secret of the Batcave (Remastered)
I was going through the deleted scenes from the Batman Forever DVD and decided to remaster/edit this specific scene.Why ? Because in the DVD it was basically...youtu.be
I actually really like the fan edit that tried to include that and other scenes back in like this alternate opening:
I just appreciate that this is the only telling that acknowledged that Bruce might have to take a #2 while in the suit.
It always amazes me how much chemistry they had considering how much Tommy Lee Jones hated Jim Kerry in real life.
I didn't realize that was going on! The two of them were just chewing scenery in every shot! Definitely worked well together.