you're actually not wrong.
I'll have to watch it again, but in recalling the content that video, I don't think I can agree that the point was that "sexism is fake news," much less racism which they don't even mention. It's been awhile since I watched anything of theirs, but I would also be deeply surprised if they said "x group doesn't need representation," in fact I've heard them say diversity is a good thing, praise Daisy Ridley, mock man babies. Got a clip?Re-watching their Ghostbusters 2016 Science Man analysis and its amazing how poorly its aged. Essentially saying that racism/sexism is fake news/ statically insignificant 4 months before the 2016 elections is kind of incredible. Buts its a criticism they use whenever a diverse movie comes out. " X group of people don't need representation. Stop pandering they already have historical figures/their parents."
To be honest the only reason I'm sort of defending Rich here is that I'm still so annoyed about how many white dudes of multiple political affiliations said shit just like that around that time, and I don't want it to be dismissed as a right wing thing when it was a white man thing.centrism implies both sides. There was no other side in Rich's rant, it was simply bashing protesters and defending Trump. He said Trump hadn't done anything wrong.
Just pointing out that this is not actual centrism, just right wing bullshit.To be honest the only reason I'm sort of defending Rich here is that I'm still so annoyed about how many white dudes of multiple political affiliations said shit just like that around that time, and I don't want it to be dismissed as a right wing thing when it was a white man thing.
I agree with you.I will never, ever, ever, ever, ever agree to any idea that "You should not be allowed to talk about X or Y on this forum". If the mods decide that I'll follow the rules, but I personally think its insane to say certain ideas or people are to never be discussed. If the people are unpopular then discussion will just die naturally.
To me it just exposes the weakness of some peoples beliefs, when they are angry that something they dislike is not hated by everyone else and they feel their only recourse is to ban all discussion of that idea or topic.
Yeah, this is something they do fairly consistently and they never take five sections to realize minorities might want popcorn heroes too. TFA review was the first time I noticed it and it just continued in that vein whenever they could mention it in similar videos even when it had very little to do with the movie itself.Buts its a criticism they use whenever a diverse movie comes out. " X group of people don't need representation. Stop pandering they already have historical figures/their parents."
the people who come in this thread to say stuff like "they're terrible, they didn't like batman v superman" are too much for me lmao
they're definitely bitter old boomers. they're not like scheming neo nazi's like Ben Shapiro or anything, they're just fragile old ignorant white dudes that watch South Park and think they're clever. I think it's definitely getting worse though, as evidenced by the captain marvel video. it ultimately doesn't matter though when you fill your videos with shit like rich's Chinese bs and it actually undermines a lot of their videos now because they've been sucked into the anti-feminism black hole. it's probably only gonna get worse as they get older and more out of touch, and their audience becomes more alt right dudes whining about the last jedi
It's not a centrism thing imo it's a civility/white man thing. Political ideology doesn't play into it as much because like I said it wasn't relagated to one polical side.Just pointing out that this is not actual centrism, just right wing bullshit.
Is there a new definition for "boomers" that I'm not aware of? The youngest baby boomers are 55 years old. I don't think any of the RLM people are even 40
Centrism implies both sides. There was no other side in Rich's rant, it was simply bashing protesters and defending Trump. He said Trump hadn't done anything wrong.
old + out of touchIs there a new definition for "boomers" that I'm not aware of? The youngest baby boomers are 55 years old. I don't think any of the RLM people are even 40
It's not a centrism thing imo it's a civility/white man thing. Political ideology doesn't play into it as much because like I said it wasn't relagated to one polical side.
I'm not saying they're all Trumpers. I'm saying Rich's rhetoric is bashing one side and defending the other. That's not centrism.I'm not endorsing his viewpoint, but this was immediately after the election. Have you just forgotten that everybody and their mother was tripping over themselves to argue that 'checks and balances' would keep Trump from fucking anything up too badly and that the Dems should take a close look at how they lost the election? That was prety much ground zero for moderate rhetoric in 2016.
You don't have to like RLM, but it's disingenuous to suggest that they're a bastion of Trump supporters. They're cynics. That's their schtick. They step over the line on occasion and, frankly, have been doing it more often than usual lately.
This is a Boomer reference smh
If you don't understand the right context, then you are probably a boomer.Is there a new definition for "boomers" that I'm not aware of? The youngest baby boomers are 55 years old. I don't think any of the RLM people are even 40
I don't know how centrism came into the conversation and I don't think the definition of it isn't particularly important to this discussion.I'm not saying they're all Trumpers. I'm saying Rich's rhetoric is bashing one side and defending the other. That's not centrism.
If you don't understand the right context, then you are probably a boomer.
I don't know how centrism came into the conversation and I don't think the definition of it isn't particularly important to this discussion.
The problem there is that the line between Plinkett the character and cast themselves has become increasingly blurred as they continue to lean into the things that resonates most with their audience. Obviously they aren't out there torturing sex workers and cooking cats in microwaves, but the shitty things that Plinkett used to say ironically eventually became the things that the crew said ironically, and that is slowly starting to become things they are saying unironically.
It's also a poor comparison point, because they more closely align with the nihilistic slacker "fuck you if you care about something" tones of Gen-X more than anything else.Is there a new definition for "boomers" that I'm not aware of? The youngest baby boomers are 55 years old. I don't think any of the RLM people are even 40
There's a difference between "topic is not to be discussed" vs. refusing to promote and provide a platform for some assholes who we can afford to ignore.I will never, ever, ever, ever, ever agree to any idea that "You should not be allowed to talk about X or Y on this forum". If the mods decide that I'll follow the rules, but I personally think its insane to say certain ideas or people are to never be discussed. If the people are unpopular then discussion will just die naturally.
To me it just exposes the weakness of some peoples beliefs, when they are angry that something they dislike is not hated by everyone else and they feel their only recourse is to ban all discussion of that idea or topic.
gen x is Boomer. you're either boomer millennial or zoomerIt's also a poor comparison point, because they more closely align with the nihilistic slacker "fuck you if you care about something" tones of Gen-X more than anything else.
Cynicism with minimal thought and content behind it is popular online.Aside from the Plinkett PT review I don't understand how these guys got popular. Their reviews lick asscrack. There is no nuanced movie discussion - they just bitch endlessly. I never got their popularity here or on GAF.
There's literally people in this thread demanding that RLM be banned from being discussed here.There's a difference between "topic is not to be discussed" vs. refusing to promote and provide a platform for some assholes who we can afford to ignore.
It's not like posters who mentioned the name 'Grace Randolph' are being dragged away, but we sure as hell don't need to promote her content, let alone harbor a dedicated community for her.
This is incredibly disappointing considering they show a lot of the same red flags as other already banned sources on Era4. There will not be a blanket ban on Red Letter Media content.
Is this about the endless trash meme?
Those movies weren't out yet when they did that.
EVERYONE thought that IT 2017 was going to be awful at one point.
Wonder Woman was coming off of BvS.
The previous attempt at a Power Rangers movie was a massive failure.
Oh, and they ended up liking all three of those movies.
No, he stopped the series because he was already finding work elsewhere but mainly because he just felt like it was the right time to do so. He did his "final essay" in text form.
Good.4. There will not be a blanket ban on Red Letter Media content.
Every time someone who doesn't like the prequels, tells me to watch those reviews, they can't be bothered to tell me themselves why they don't like the prequel.
That's enough for me to avoid them.
Strong disagree. We don't need to give platforms to people like Sargon, Colin Moriarty, Grace Randolph, Keemstar etc
Explaining the same thing constantly for 20 years is tiring. That seems obvious.