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blanton

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They're redneck white supremacists rolling into the city and inciting violence against people fighting for equality. How exactly would it be surprising if one of them got capped?

Yes obviously they are trying to start shit, but please go on and keep suggesting that it would somehow be unwarranted.
Call me crazy but "asking for it" isn't justification for murder.
 

Metallix87

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Metallix87

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Yeah you got me oh shit good job. Keep fighting that semantics war.

These poor fucking armed white supremacists, it's great folks like you are lookin out for them.
So would you say those white supremacists are justified in fighting back? Do you think it's okay to enable escalation?
 

mreddie

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We are sitting on a powder keg and I'm already dreading the election because one or another, shits hitting the fan.
 

Metallix87

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We are sitting on a powder keg and I'm already dreading the election because one or another, shits hitting the fan.
Yes, and it's clear some people in this very thread want to see the powder keg explode in an extremely violent way. This situation is getting worse, and steps need to be taken before we have a situation that could prove deadly for countless people in America.
 

Loud Wrong

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Don't let bloodlust blind you from the bigger picture. This situation is exactly what the Right is hoping for.
 
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The cops are seen here escorting Joey Gibson, known Patriot Prayer dude, aka a terrorist. I'm tired of "editorializing." This fucker has been fucking around in my city for fucking years and causing shit. Fuck this guy.


They are protecting him so they don't have another Kenosha situation. Or Would you pefer he potentially have a gun,get surrounded/attacked and then procede to open fire on people in "self defense" and end up with dead protesters? Police are protecting this pos so nothing like that kicks off.
 

mreddie

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We're already at the "It's okay to kill them, they are waving the flag of the opposition" stage and there's two months to go.
One side wants to be heard in a hard way because everything else has been drowned out but it's also why the other side wants them to go hard because they want to fulfill their fantasy of being Charles Bronson and shit.
 

Metallix87

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One side wants to be heard in a hard way because everything else has been drowned out but it's also why the other side wants them to go hard because they want to fulfill their fantasy of being Charles Bronson and shit.
And by supporting this murder, people are essentially giving the right carte blanche to fulfill that fantasy and escalate the situation further.
 

King Alamat

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It's not about warranted or unwarranted. Those people can just as easily argue that they're sick of the protester's shit, and your logic gives them essentially a pass for reciprocal escalation. Maybe you're okay with an all out gun fight between the right and the left, with countless deaths on both sides, but I'm certainly not. That's not the path I want to see this country take.
If they're so sick of the protester's shit, then they can go the fuck back to whatever backwater shithole they crawled out from.
 

RoninZ

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The Patriot Prayer group does have history with the Portland PD so combine that with the obvious inclusion of racism within the group, how else was this shit supposed to go?
 

Metallix87

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If they're so sick of the protester's shit, then they can go the fuck back to whatever backwater shithole they crawled out from.
They won't. They feel they have a right to counter-protest. And if they're being killed, they're going to fight back. Again, this is a dangerous path to walk. Much like all previous murders, this should be condemned, not supported.

I'm out of this thread. Maybe reflect a little if you're sitting here defending white supremacist theorist groups coming into a city to attack protesters.

Pathetic.
The only pathetic thing here is you, supporting cold-blooded murder.
 

thuway

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Oct 27, 2017
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Man I wish we could foster dialogue that it's super important to vote in November. All this protesting won't mean Jack if Trump is still in office.

Meanwhile Left Twitter is donning Rose emojis and focused on Medicare For All as some gotcha. I can't tell who is a troll and who has common sense any more.
 

King Alamat

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They won't. They feel they have a right to counter-protest. And if they're being killed, they're going to fight back. Again, this is a dangerous path to walk. Much like all previous murders, this should be condemned, not supported.
"They're going to fight back" as though they haven't been instigating shit and killing folks with the cops' blessing already. Fuck outta here with this shit and go back to Gaming where you belong.
 
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If "sick of their shit" is enough justification for shooting and killing someone, we're going to be in a lot of trouble in the coming months.
It's not about warranted or unwarranted. Those people can just as easily argue that they're sick of the protester's shit, and your logic gives them essentially a pass for reciprocal escalation. Maybe you're okay with an all out gun fight between the right and the left, with countless deaths on both sides, but I'm certainly not. That's not the path I want to see this country take.
Look, if you're okay with supporting murder of people whose "shit you're sick of", that's on you.
The only pathetic thing here is you, supporting cold-blooded murder.
Get the fuck out of here with this disingenuous bullshit. This is persistent gaslighting for fuck knows what reason
 

Verelios

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It's not about warranted or unwarranted. Those people can just as easily argue that they're sick of the protester's shit, and your logic gives them essentially a pass for reciprocal escalation. Maybe you're okay with an all out gun fight between the right and the left, with countless deaths on both sides, but I'm certainly not. That's not the path I want to see this country take.
What kind of path did you think this country was on? If you thought things would change without anger and pushback, that this country was in a position to peacefully reconcile and get along, then you haven't been paying attention to what protesters have been saying.

A lot, and I mean a lot, of people will die or be savaged before the path you want to take is considered. And at that point there might not be a future for those protesting already.
 

Shigs

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The protests need to start dying down a bit. No matter how peaceful they are, it's only adding fuel to the fire at this point and is actually HELPING Trump.

If you must protest, do so during the day and get out of there before curfew. Don't give those corrupt cops an excuse to attack.

Focus on helping your local democratic politicians get elected and help get the word out on voting. Even if he wins again, if the senate and congress are democratic, he loses most of his power.
 

gogosox82

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I like how some people want us to "foster dialgue" with white nationalist terrorists who go into cities specifically to start shit. Fuck otta here with that noise. You don't negotiate with people who are trying to kill you.
 

Loud Wrong

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They are protecting him so they don't have another Kenosha situation. Or Would you pefer he potentially have a gun,get surrounded/attacked and then procede to open fire on people in "self defense" and end up with dead protesters? Police are protecting this pos so nothing like that kicks off.
I don't think that's it. I think it's more of a case of many in the Portland PD seeing eye to eye with racist groups.
 

Scottt

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Man I wish we could foster dialogue that it's super important to vote in November. All this protesting won't mean Jack if Trump is still in office.

Meanwhile Left Twitter is donning Rose emojis and focused on Medicare For All as some gotcha. I can't tell who is a troll and who has common sense any more.

Vehement white supremacists have been identified in this thread, yet you're worried about people to your left.
 

mreddie

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The protests need to start dying down a bit. No matter how peaceful they are, it's only adding fuel to the fire at this point and is actually HELPING Trump.
Problem is the moment they started to quiet down, Kenosha happened.

All it takes is one fuckup and we're back to square one and square one keeps getting worse
 

5taquitos

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The protests need to start dying down a bit. No matter how peaceful they are, it's only adding fuel to the fire at this point and is actually HELPING Trump.

If you must protest, do so during the day and get out of there before curfew. Don't give those corrupt cops an excuse to attack.

Focus on helping your local democratic politicians get elected and help get the word out on voting. Even if he wins again, if the senate and congress are democratic, he loses most of his power.
Fuck that, protest harder
 

KtotheRoc

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The protests need to start dying down a bit. No matter how peaceful they are, it's only adding fuel to the fire at this point and is actually HELPING Trump.

If you must protest, do so during the day and get out of there before curfew. Don't give those corrupt cops an excuse to attack.

Focus on helping your local democratic politicians get elected and help get the word out on voting. Even if he wins again, if the senate and congress are democratic, he loses most of his power.

Trump's numbers on these issues are fucking awful. He's inciting this shit with his rhetoric. And everybody fucking knows it.
 

ReturnOfThaMack88

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The protests need to start dying down a bit. No matter how peaceful they are, it's only adding fuel to the fire at this point and is actually HELPING Trump.

If you must protest, do so during the day and get out of there before curfew. Don't give those corrupt cops an excuse to attack.

Focus on helping your local democratic politicians get elected and help get the word out on voting. Even if he wins again, if the senate and congress are democratic, he loses most of his power.

We have to understand that things will need to get uncomfortable before real change happens. It's not the time to back down now.
 

Loud Wrong

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Problem is the moment they started to quiet down, Kenosha happened.

All it takes is one fuckup and we're back to square one and square one keeps getting worse
It's a legitimate concern that democrats running for office have. It's the one opening Trump has.

www.cnn.com

Why Democrats are worried about Kenosha

Former Vice President Joe Biden and President Donald Trump both recognize the potential political fallouts if protests in the wake of the Jacob Blake shooting are seen as peaceful or as violent. Biden benefits if they are seen as the former, while Trump is helped if they are seen as the latter.

In their messaging/campaigning, and in debates, they just need to constantly remind voters that everything you're seeing now is occurring under Trump. This won't go away if he's re-elected.
 
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The protests need to start dying down a bit. No matter how peaceful they are, it's only adding fuel to the fire at this point and is actually HELPING Trump.

If you must protest, do so during the day and get out of there before curfew. Don't give those corrupt cops an excuse to attack.

Focus on helping your local democratic politicians get elected and help get the word out on voting. Even if he wins again, if the senate and congress are democratic, he loses most of his power.
History has shown that this is absolutely 100% the incorrect move. If anything, we need a general strike.
 

Sadsic

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Oct 25, 2017
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The protests need to start dying down a bit. No matter how peaceful they are, it's only adding fuel to the fire at this point and is actually HELPING Trump.

If you must protest, do so during the day and get out of there before curfew. Don't give those corrupt cops an excuse to attack.

Focus on helping your local democratic politicians get elected and help get the word out on voting. Even if he wins again, if the senate and congress are democratic, he loses most of his power.

i work in polling, the polls are not moving towards trump at all
 

Mahonay

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The protests need to start dying down a bit. No matter how peaceful they are, it's only adding fuel to the fire at this point and is actually HELPING Trump.

If you must protest, do so during the day and get out of there before curfew. Don't give those corrupt cops an excuse to attack.

Focus on helping your local democratic politicians get elected and help get the word out on voting. Even if he wins again, if the senate and congress are democratic, he loses most of his power.
Just had to pop back in to say this post is WHACK
 

Mekanos

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lol "protests need to stop." Protests are more important than elections.

Man I wish we could foster dialogue that it's super important to vote in November. All this protesting won't mean Jack if Trump is still in office.

Meanwhile Left Twitter is donning Rose emojis and focused on Medicare For All as some gotcha. I can't tell who is a troll and who has common sense any more.

Fascists with guns will not go away if Biden wins. Good you found a reason to shadowbox against the left though.
 

Shigs

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History has shown that this is absolutely 100% the incorrect move. If anything, we need a general strike.

General Strike meaning?...

I think I'm getting too influenced by my brother who's freaking out a bit right now. I keep telling him to get off of Facebook. Every post he sees has him panicking.

I'm also frustrated because I'm not seeing the impact I'm hoping for. If it weren't for videos on Twitter, you'd swear there were no protests going on at all. The news isn't covering it anymore unless it gets violent.
 

TaySan

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I'm trying to go through local news and remember that reporting is sketchy at this point. I tried to remain neutral in the OP about who was killed and who started violence and whatnot. But the fact remains that we have had 93+ days of protests here without a single death. A caravan of Trump supporters rolled into town and someone wound up dead.
I understand I was just reporting on what I'm finding. All of this blood is on Trump's hands and I'm afraid this is going to get so much worse before it gets better.
 

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Man I wish we could foster dialogue that it's super important to vote in November. All this protesting won't mean Jack if Trump is still in office.

Meanwhile Left Twitter is donning Rose emojis and focused on Medicare For All as some gotcha. I can't tell who is a troll and who has common sense any more.
You come into a thread about white supremacist armed agitators and decide to shit on protestors and rose twitter? Interesting
 

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The protests need to start dying down a bit. No matter how peaceful they are, it's only adding fuel to the fire at this point and is actually HELPING Trump.

If you must protest, do so during the day and get out of there before curfew. Don't give those corrupt cops an excuse to attack.

Focus on helping your local democratic politicians get elected and help get the word out on voting. Even if he wins again, if the senate and congress are democratic, he loses most of his power.
Only voting doesn't mean shit when the Democrats in these cities bend over backwards for the police.

Asking people to stop protesting injustices because it MIGHT help Trump lmao
 

aerie

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Thread is temporarily locked while we review some posts and reports.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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I am fucking terrified of the implications of this.

Armed political violence is only going to increase and the US government will absolutely back the right wing militias in trying to stamp out all opposition.

People on the left should maybe look into means of self defense or gun ownership because it might not be safe for us here soon.
 

Adree

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Fuck around and find out.
They're redneck white supremacists rolling into the city and inciting violence against people fighting for equality. How exactly would it be surprising if one of them got capped?

Yes obviously they are trying to start shit, but please go on and keep suggesting that it would somehow be unwarranted.

What does "fuck around and find out" mean in any context other than you get the consequences you deserve and why does that not also mean advocating murder if we're going to throw that around so loosely?
 

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Now go look at the Wisconsin Senate and Assembly, I'll wait.
Most of police stuff is done at a local level. There's a lot the mayor could have done to prevent this.

You could also look at Portland, LA, NYC or Seattle too 🤷‍♂️
 
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