I didn't even know it was a Cuarón movie. Since it's on Netflix anyway I should watch it. 🤔
I think you can see the influence of their canned "Best Popular Film" category.
Then perhaps they shouldn't be complaining about the validity of a particular film in the BP category when they have no reference to compare it to.
Difficult to see what you're saying here. Are you saying that the Academy and critics just praise this movie this to save face ("Yeah we love diversity, see?") so black people will shut up? As a compensation for years of neglect? Or.. what are you saying?"Oh wow, black people can write, direct, and star in expensive movies too?! What an achievement!" is what Black Panther being nominated feels like to me. There's nothing exceptional about the writing, the direction, the acting, or technical prowess. The only thing exceptional is that black people were in the forward facing positions and it feels condescending to me that that's enough to get a best picture nomination. However, this will probably the last opportunity for a $200M movie written, directed, and starring black people to be nominated for an best picture Oscar for quite some time so I'm okay with it being recognized for being a $200M black movie.
Was her scene in the bedroom after the car discovery the best piece of acting this year?Poor Toni Collette. I guess being in a horror movie automatically gets you snubbed.
Was her scene in the bedroom after the car discovery the best piece of acting this year?
I think yes
#justice4toni
Yep yep. Totally agreeYep. They were fine with the film until it shattered box office expectations and received unanimous critical acclaim. Then the worm turned.
It'd be one thing if the critiques were coming from a legitimate place but the obfuscation and attempt to downplay the important themes Panther explored, depiction of Afrofuturism, solid acting and one of the most nuanced antagonists the MCU has had by harping on the CGI ad nausea and boiling its acclaim down to "political correctness" is pathetically transparent.
Was her scene in the bedroom after the car discovery the best piece of acting this year?
I think yes
#justice4toni
There wasn't one in terms of box office gross. That said, it was actually a strong year for documentaries (compared to the rest of cinema, I would argue) and there's no intrinsic benefit to Won't You Be My Neighbor? getting more of a profile from Oscar glory whereas there are some exceptional docs that were nominated that could stand to benefit a ton.Seriously, how did Won't You Be My Neighbor? not get nominated? What bigger documentary was there this year?
Mind the Gap should win regardless.Seriously, how did Won't You Be My Neighbor? not get nominated? What bigger documentary was there this year?
Minding the Gap is incredible. Hoping more people take the opportunity to see it.
Killmonger has a complete arc where we learn his origins, his goals, his motivations, the realization of those goals. He's a dominating force in the film, and drives not only the narrative forward, but everything about him deeply impacts the main character and touches heavily on the film's examination of the long term effects of colonialism and the Trans-Atlantic slave trade. For you to say "It feels like Serkis is the main villain" quite literally does not make sense.
I agree that Infinity War pulls together a lot of characters and tones, and I think it does an admirable job of making it all flow together with only minor hiccups in pacing. But as I've said before, only three of those characters have anything approaching an arc, and none of those arcs have the depth that is seen in T'Challa and Killmonger in Black Panther.
Infinity War is not a complete story, and it feels almost unfair to compare it to Black Panther, which is complete, well structured, and ACTUALLY daring. So it's kind of funny seeing some of you attempt to make an argument that Infinity War is somehow a better film. I honestly congratulate you for putting up a better effort than most.
Or because it's an average super hero movie.Yeah it's like these idiots "loling" at the black panther best picture nom refuses to acknowledge or understand that a well made film with a huge cultural impact deserves to be in the running. They refuse to understand context and just reverts to "black panther lol"
Only salt from me because it's not even a top 10 marvel movie. Infinity war was 1000000x better.I couldn't care less about Black Panther being nominated or not, but OMG the salt it generated...
Kinda want it to win everything now.
This
I don't think she stands a chance, that award is probably going Glenn Close, with a possible upset from Coleman or (I hope not) Gaga. My bet for best actor is Bale, best supporting Mahershela or Sam Elliot, and Regina King. I also think Alfonso/Roma will take the best director and picture* while it will lose the best foreign to Cold War.Yalitza needs to win. Indigenous latinas need some love and recognition. My afro latina ass sobbed when Lupita won her Oscar. If Yalitza doesnt win, I'm out man.
Predictably lame best picture stuff.
Surprised there's no Beale Street though.
I really want to see Suspiria. To be fair I'd watch anything with Tilda Swinton in it. She's amazing. I'm still annoyed to this day that nobody seems to have seen Only Lovers Left Alive...
Hah. You people refuse to understand why Black Panther - a very well made film - means so much to minorities and why it had such a cultural impact, hence its nomination. Just keep ignoring that context and enjoy your salt.
Yes. It was one of the most haunting moments I've ever seen in a horror movie period.
IW isn't a good film. I couldn't even finish it when I tried rewatching recently. It's overlong, poorly paced, and entirely too pleased with itself over its ending. It can't stand on its own, not outside the context of the larger MCU or even really outside the context of its upcoming sequel (which is gonna undo that "stunner" of an ending btw). As a single story, it is incomplete. Maybe the Marvel superfans who populate this forum don't care, but the average Academy voter probably does.
It throws a ton of characters at you. Few have good or complete arcs. The numerous characters force you to recognize how shallow and archetypal some of them are, especially when characters of the same archetype are interacting. Consider the rich, privileged, arrogant, cocky, white bastard who experiences a life-altering event that leads him to his super powers and a renewed sense of purpose in the world. He's a good guy now, even if he's still a bit of an arrogant asshole sometimes. Did I just describe Doctor Strange or Tony Stark?
Black Panther doesn't fully stick the landing in its 3rd act, but it's a way better movie to me. It's a complete story, and rather than being pure escapist popcorn entertainment like most superhero movies are, it uses its narrative to explore potent themes and ideas. Things like the Void, isolationism, colonialism. That's more worthy of celebration to me than how good the CGI climax looks.
Only salt from me because it's not even a top 10 marvel movie. Infinity war was 1000000x better.
It got nominated for every reason other than it being an actual good movie.
Same as Crouching Tiger. I don't think any film has won both BP and Best Foreign Language. It'll probably get the later or maybe Netflix's big money push might take it over the line. Would a Mexican film taking BP be seen as political?
Beauty and the beast did it 28 years ago.