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The Daily Beast has reported that a new version of 8chan has shown up called 08chan, however, the refugees who are migrating to 08chan is losing their anonymity that they had with 8chan:


Refugees from the anonymous 8chan forum are flooding into a new censorship-resistant home on the dark web, and inadvertently giving up their anonymity along the way.

A reincarnated version of the hate-filled forum, now linked to three mass shootings, appeared Monday when the original 8chan lost its hosting service. The new site, called 08chan (with a leading zero), has no affiliation with the original and it's not entirely clear who set it up, but 8chan's diaspora have been flooding in as word of the site spreads through right-wing social media.

The distinguishing feature of the new site is that it lives on ZeroNet, a peer-to-peer network designed by information activists to allow for uncensorable websites immune from government or corporate intervention. Instead of relying on a central server, a ZeroNet site is hosted in bits and pieces by everyone browsing it, making it virtually impossible to shut down.

"Hard as they try, they will never stop us," enthused one poster to the white supremacist "/pol/" board on 08chan. "We are smarter and more innovative."

"The old 8chan site may be ashes, but this is the phoenix egg buried beneath," another wrote.

There's just one catch. Peer-to-peer networks expose a user's internet address to anyone who cares to look. That's how copyright lawyers catch people trading movies, music and software, and it's how police and FBI agents arrest pedophiles trading child porn online.

The Daily Beast captured 819 IP addresses for 08chan users connecting from 62 different countries. Most users in our sample, 437 of them, are in the U.S., with Canada (46 users), and the U.K. (37), a distant second and third place. Ordered by states, California, Texas, Washington, and Florida top the list.

Some users connected over VPNs, shielding them from our analysis, but hundreds logged in directly from cable TV broadband networks and other residential services.
 

Feep

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"We are smarter and more innovative."

Mm-hmm.
 

Kyou

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I kinda wish they'd waited longer to point this out

let them really fuck themselves
 

TheMadTitan

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"We are smarter and more innovative."

Goes on to connect to a website linked to terrorism without using anything to mask IP information.
 

danm999

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Someone might have mentioned this already, but are IP addresses really that reliable? Don't they change from time to time? Also it could just indicate a connection and I imagine a lot are accessing from shared or unknowingly off other people's connections.

Depending on the jurisdiction, ISPs can be compelled to help identify the owner of an IP address. As you say it isn't a bulletproof method of identifying somebody but it's a hell of a lot of exposure to give yourself on a message board which has been ground zero for several mass shootings.
 

jman2050

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Someone might have mentioned this already, but are IP addresses really that reliable? Don't they change from time to time? Also it could just indicate a connection and I imagine a lot are accessing from shared or unknowingly off other people's connections.

They're reliable if the user isn't behind a VPN and the ISPs are logging DHCP IP assignments which I presume all of them most certainly do.
 
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They're reliable if the user isn't behind a VPN and the ISPs are logging DHCP IP assignments which I presume all of them most certainly do.

I hate how a VPN is basically a free pass to be a completely anonymous asshole online as long as you don't do something that would be so horrible they would pursue a means to try and locate you. It's so fucked up. There are a lot of messed up people out there and I imagine like seen here clever ones just use a VPN.

Either way really glad they are able to keep tabs on the ones without VPN. Some really horrible people out there.
 

ZackieChan

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VPNs: exist

VPN-less White Supremacists: wE aRe sMarteR anD mOre iNnOvaTivE
 
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I knew they'd not be organised to move to anything which didn't have a super similar name. Wherever they go politicians will know about it.
 

ZackieChan

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I hate how a VPN is basically a free pass to be a completely anonymous asshole online as long as you don't do something that would be so horrible they would pursue a means to try and locate you. It's so fucked up. There are a lot of messed up people out there and I imagine like seen here clever ones just use a VPN.

Either way really glad they are able to keep tabs on the ones without VPN. Some really horrible people out there.
The good things that VPNs bring far outweigh the bad things, so I'm happy they exist. Same as encryption.
 

iapetus

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Depending on the jurisdiction, ISPs can be compelled to help identify the owner of an IP address. As you say it isn't a bulletproof method of identifying somebody but it's a hell of a lot of exposure to give yourself on a message board which has been ground zero for several mass shootings.

So we can identify either the culprit, a friend or family member, or someone nearby who doesn't know how to secure their WiFi, or a local business owner. I'm sold - time for vigilante action against them!
 

Boiled Goose

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I hate how a VPN is basically a free pass to be a completely anonymous asshole online as long as you don't do something that would be so horrible they would pursue a means to try and locate you. It's so fucked up. There are a lot of messed up people out there and I imagine like seen here clever ones just use a VPN.

Either way really glad they are able to keep tabs on the ones without VPN. Some really horrible people out there.

Eh... Don't give up your freedom and privacy so easily.

What should be done to these idiots is preventing them from assembling for hate.
 

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"We are smarter and more innovative."

The Daily Beast captured 819 IP addresses for 08chan users connecting from 62 different countries.

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DeltaRed

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Makes me think a lot of the people on these boards are teenagers and young adults, swept up into something and don't really know what they're doing.
 

Skunk

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I don't. It's pretty well understood that post-Silk Road and other various early Darkweb things that even using stuff like Tor (just by itself) is a one way ticket to getting on a watchlist. Plus, with the scrutiny of 8chan recently, the people working at government agencies are not so naive as to not follow up and try and identify where these people scurry off to.