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87 year old Dianne Feinstein gives Lindsey Graham a big hug without a mask after he refused to take a COVID test.
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tbh I have more faith in the bonafides of people like Manchin and Edwards, Democrats in states where being a Democrat confers zero benefits and actively hurts them, over people like Feinstein and especially Gabbard who are clearly just liberals because they have to be in their Safe D states
How did that happen? Is she in a super white district? Old and white?
Her district is entire state of California. She won because of name recognition and $$$.
Fun fact, her more liberal opponent won Republicans.
I'm guessing decades of incumbency gave her greater name recognition than her opponent.
I'm not sure why you're both being so obtuse about this, but there was an obvious alternative to going crazy: she could have done nothing. It would have been a dramatic improvement over what she actually did. Instead, she decided to go out of her way save Lindsey Graham's career. She undermined the Democrat's chances at taking the Senate just so she could gush over an incompetent racist who would never do the same thing for her in a million years. She absolutely deserves the flak she's getting for this stunt and then some.
She's been our Senator since 1992, LITERALLY before I was able to vote and I'm 40! Hell, before I knew what she was really about, I voted for her. It was definitely one of those "Well, she's been here so long, and she's a Democrat. What, you expect me to vote for a Republican?!"
But yeah, in primaries I've been voting for whomever rises up to the occassion to challenge her. We need fresh blood in here.
Democrats shouldn't have even showed up and legitimized this farce in the first place. So they could only disappoint from there, given their predilection for eating shit from the Repubs, and then afterwards thanking them for a good time.
Though I do like how amidst all this decorum and civility and praising each other for a well done hearing, we get this at the end:
Just to kinda put a stamp on it all.
Though I do like how amidst all this decorum and civility and praising each other for a well done hearing, we get this at the end:
Just to kinda put a stamp on it all.
Feinstein has been basura for a long time, going back to her continually ardent support for the Patriot Act, the NSA, and her general jingoist and totalitarian views of national security agencies in this country, pro-AIPAC stances, support for the Protect IP act (PIPA) and more. Aside from her stances on a few social issues, I would hardly call her left-leaning. Long time past for her to go.
The underlined is bs. Feinstein has always been a pro-business politician when she failed upwards into the mayorship of SF, which make sense for the legislation she has supported for decades now. Pelosi isn't perfect, but the two fall very differently on the philosophical political scale that they aren't even comparable between the two.
Though I won't fight you on the bolded part. I would also like fresh blood to represent San Francisco and California in general.
Imagine being EIGHTY SEVEN fucking years old and still wanting to work. Am I special, because I am 30 and wish I could already retire (despite enjoying my career)? I mean, what the fuck, fellow humans.
I agree that the two above are incredibly bad takes. Democrats don't get to call the entire confirmation process a sham and come around thanking the perpetrators of a sham process.
Her actions clearly undermined the narrative the the Senate Democrats are trying to convey, and Feinstein is clearly getting blow-back, for her insistence of decorum and her reckless behavior of hugging Graham that refuses to get COVID tested, is fucking well deserved.
The fact that this relic still represents me as a CA resident is boiling my blood atm.
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I'm not sure why anyone would defend this unless their mindset is "defend any democrat no matter what they do"
I think this is mostly true. I also think it's a failure of not grasping the bigger picture and how actions are interpreted when not in a vacuum.
She is way out of line, get her out. She used this opportunity as a public act to elevate the Republicans because she is part of a circle of politicians among the Democrats who are afraid of the rising popularity of a certain segment within their party. They will do everything they can to fuel a "moderate" narrative against members of their own party.
Once Biden is in power, be very vigilant, as the biggest threat seen amongst this circle once Trump is out of office is those Democrats who don't fit within the traditional political boundaries that were established among the Dems' leading figures of the past.
Once Biden is in power, be very vigilant, as the biggest threat seen amongst this circle once Trump is out of office is those Democrats who don't fit within the traditional political boundaries that were established among the Dems' leading figures of the past.
NPR today mentioned how this got the biggest backlash from the progressive side yet. She's always been a moderate Democrat without much of a peep, but like the Tea Party pulled the GOP right, the progressives are pulling the Democratic party left.
It will be interesting to see the results, though I assume she will not run next election or die before her term is served.
For the Senate specifically, a lot of power comes from literal seniority (how much time you've spent in the position). This is part of the reason she is so powerful. She's been around for so long that she's on the most desired committees (and even heads them).
It's one way the US government functions that is meant to be good, but can result in unfortunate and unintended consequences.
It will be interesting to see the results, though I assume she will not run next election or die before her term is served.
For the Senate specifically, a lot of power comes from literal seniority (how much time you've spent in the position). This is part of the reason she is so powerful. She's been around for so long that she's on the most desired committees (and even heads them).
It's one way the US government functions that is meant to be good, but can result in unfortunate and unintended consequences.
As someone who has been really hoping Harrison could pull it off, this fucking infuriated me.
Being so open and theatrical about it makes me feel like she did it all purposefully. She wants it known that she supports the old white male power structure over this young black man rising up and challenging it, politics be damned. I question whether she would have pulled this horse shit if he were running against some young white moderate.
Fucking disgusting. I don't know how Cali politics work, but I hope she's primaried/challenged as soon as possible.
Being so open and theatrical about it makes me feel like she did it all purposefully. She wants it known that she supports the old white male power structure over this young black man rising up and challenging it, politics be damned. I question whether she would have pulled this horse shit if he were running against some young white moderate.
Fucking disgusting. I don't know how Cali politics work, but I hope she's primaried/challenged as soon as possible.
Guys it's not a big deal, it's her coworker, get over it
Ah! Well. Nevertheless,
Ah! Well. Nevertheless,
It is basically impossible to primary her. Personally, I think the reason is that we have a jungle primary (where it's not one Dem and one Republican but the top two vote-getters in the general), where she ends up dominating because CA Republicans will vote for her over the other Democrat, and she'll win.
Looking at actuarial tables, the chances of that aren't too bad.
Hold tight? The fuck are you talking about? These people are supposed to represent us and they're bowing down to people who want us dead just because they're civil. Every single Dem who gets so easily fooled by civility as to not see these monsters for the monsters they are needs to fucking go, flat out, and if you disagree you're not on the left, you're a useful pawn for the GOP.
Do you legitimately feel that there is nothing in between throwing a chair and hugging a man who is not only proving himself a massive hypocrite and opportunist, but also someone who refuses to get tested for Covid, and in turn, herself bucking this common sense shit?
Don't speak nonsense.
If she wanted to say goodbye she could have done it later, off-camera. She specifically praised Graham for "one of the best hearings I've participated in", then hugged him. This was obviously a really ill-advised stunt to display bipartisanship by an awful Senator that's way out of touch.
And if she didn't realize this would look bad, that would speak to her political instincts being completely gone and would be even worse.
And if she didn't realize this would look bad, that would speak to her political instincts being completely gone and would be even worse.