Interesting that you do not find a very quick way to respond to a message as straightforward, but rather a detriment.
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87% percent of teens have iphones. They like Crocs. NFT'S, Crypto, Social Issues, Games and more zoomer stats.
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Yeah, that's what I thought too. Where I live, I see way more Android phones.
Bewildering that so many people in this thread seem to be equating iPhones with the latest releases or prioritising the 'status symbol' (even though the 'status symbol' aspect is about ten years out-of-date).
While maybe that is a factor, iPhones are supported for years (6S is still supported) which makes them ideal phones to hand down when parents upgrade (and the benefit is bolstered when you consider that the US doesn't use WhatsApp). On top of that you've budget iPhones (and prior-releases) which are similarly supported for years preventing the need to continuously upgrade a teen's phone. In the US in particular, because the percentage of iPhone ownership is so high, you're naturally going to get a situation where as parents upgrades they may pass on their phone to their teen.
There's also the factor that looking at the top app lists, many of them have an iPhone-first development prioritisation (because of the distribution of revenue amongst operating systems) so the 'best' experience for these apps, if you want continuous suppport, may be found on iPhones. In
Status may play a role, but I doubt it's nearly as significant as people in this thread are portraying.
While maybe that is a factor, iPhones are supported for years (6S is still supported) which makes them ideal phones to hand down when parents upgrade (and the benefit is bolstered when you consider that the US doesn't use WhatsApp). On top of that you've budget iPhones (and prior-releases) which are similarly supported for years preventing the need to continuously upgrade a teen's phone. In the US in particular, because the percentage of iPhone ownership is so high, you're naturally going to get a situation where as parents upgrades they may pass on their phone to their teen.
There's also the factor that looking at the top app lists, many of them have an iPhone-first development prioritisation (because of the distribution of revenue amongst operating systems) so the 'best' experience for these apps, if you want continuous suppport, may be found on iPhones. In
Status may play a role, but I doubt it's nearly as significant as people in this thread are portraying.
87% have iPhones? Being that popular, any day now owning an iPhone will become uncool and I'll be ahead of the curve with my hipster Android.
And when they do - it will no longer be "Childish" but "very, very useful"
iMessage is proprietary system on top of SMS. Google tried to get the market to move to RCS, but that breaks Apple's iron grip on the texting market in the U.S., so they will never willingly support it.
Best we can hope for at this point is just making it more seamless until the market forces Apple into some kind of standard.
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Android Messages update handles Apple iMessage reactions properly
A much neater interface for iPhone to Android messaging.
www.theverge.com
The ones with creases across the screens?
I wouldn't trade my iPhone for a Fold.
I mean just the "linking a message" like Discord, Slack, Signal, iMessage, etc.iMessage is proprietary system on top of SMS. Google tried to get the market to move to RCS, but that breaks Apple's iron grip on the texting market in the U.S., so they will never willingly support it.
Best we can hope for at this point is just making it more seamless until the market forces Apple into some kind of standard.
Android Messages update handles Apple iMessage reactions properly
A much neater interface for iPhone to Android messaging.
What's not to like about a tapback? It's quick and easy and to the point. In a group chat especially they are very useful.
dunno, but I would prefer to just type something. Maybe its the boomer in me. I never use emoji either. Well, at least never the default emoji, as I do use emotes on discord or twitch. Just never in a texting context
Another day, another thread of people wildly overestimating how poor people are in the US because of the bubbles they live in - as pointed out, $67,521 is the median (note not average, so Bill Gates/Jeff Bezos doesn't screw it up) household income in the US, which was actually down slightly due to the pandemic.
www.census.gov
Income and Poverty in the United States: 2020
This report presents data on income, earnings, income inequality & poverty in the United States based on information collected in the 2021 and earlier CPS ASEC.
www.census.gov
Same. I'm the oddball who texts in complete sentences and uses proper punctuation.
It's not a boomer thing, they love Tapbacks too. My 70 year old parents use them all the time.
i don't believe it. definitely don't get it. could be possible. could be that damned drip meme.
sneaky punctuation markes be damned, i know clickbait methods(since this forum uses clickbait methods for threads all the fucking time), and that's one of them
fucking waste of my time, lol. i don't want to hear a notification beep over someone's fucking Like.
make that shit silent and don't involve me, and it's fine.
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My daughter had a new iPhone se, it was $160 new. $400 retail but they go on sale often.
Yeah. And iphones have a big used market. I'm using a iphone 12 mini that I bought used. It was like 6 months old and saved almost $200 over buying one new.
It probably skews some of the data a bit due to regional differences, but probably not by a lot.
Is it at all weird to anyone else that 47% of the survey was teens in the south? I have a feeling that may be swaying some of this data. Honestly, I'm just grasping at straws as to how Adam fucking Sandler is their favorite celebrity.
That's what RCS would have provided. But it's meaningless if iMessage doesn't support it, because that's all most iPhone users use in the U.S. Which is again a big reason why so many teens want iPhones. They don't want to be the one that sticks out and breaks the group chat, or can't share HD video, or can't Airdrop.
The duality of Era to complain about boomers but also say that the young generation is bad too.
Most people could not tell you how long iPhones are supported for or which platforms app developers prioritize for development. People in tech enthusiast circles forget that your average person doesn't pay attention to any of that.
They are saying that since Apple supports devices for such a long time, the longevity of an iPhone helps in overall usage in the US. I know plenty of people that hand off their old phones to a parent or sibling when they get a new iPhone.
It's also household income, so that's two full-time working adults making ~$33k. Not inconceivable in the slightest.Another day, another thread of people wildly overestimating how poor people are in the US because of the bubbles they live in - as pointed out, $67,521 is the median (note not average, so Bill Gates/Jeff Bezos doesn't screw it up) household income in the US, which was actually down slightly due to the pandemic.
Income and Poverty in the United States: 2020
This report presents data on income, earnings, income inequality & poverty in the United States based on information collected in the 2021 and earlier CPS ASEC.
Always amuses me when Americans on Era act like the average American is poor and struggling, especially as someone who is actually from a poor country.
Those doubting the iPhone numbers...this is anecdotal of course, but I am a teacher in a low income school where all of my students qualify for free lunch and breakfast and they virtually all have iPhones. This isn't meant as any sort of commentary on how people should be spending their money, but they are truly, in my experience, ubiquitous with the teen experience
Resetera hates Adam Sandler. Teens love Adam Sandler. Therefore, teens hate Resetera.
Right - like I'm a social democrat who believes in a Nordic-style welfare state, but at the same time, this myth that everybody in America is a struggling serf under the evil boot of capitalism and is a single paycheck lost from financial destruction just iisn't true, and honestly, probably hurts our arguments at times, when you try to convince some middle-class family in exurban Wisconsin they're standing on the edge of some gaping maw. of financial ruin.
Like, yes, most people in America live paycheck to paycheck, but that's only because peoples spending goes up and down as they make money - I was 'living paycheck to paycheck' when. I was making far less than I make now, but I'm also living paycheck to paycheck now that I'm doing a little better.
Our parents and Gen Xers thought we liked weird and dumb shit too when we were teens. At least social issues are on a rise, And saw a lot of Teens eat Veg which is pretty neat.
While I did miss that point specifically, I still think the fact that most people aren't aware of how long phones are "supported" (which can mean a few things itself) is relevant. Since most people aren't aware of that, I doubt it factors into whether or not they pass the phone down. Certainly not to the level that it would affect these numbers. They're just going to care if it works or not.... unless the kid says they don't want an Android phone, then they decide whether that's too bad or to go ahead and get them an iPhone.
Yeah iPhones are basically given away by carriers these days due to all the incentives and financing programs. It hasnt been a rich person thing since maybe 2010-2011? I see people look down on Android users in dating apps as well. Crazy how humans are great at finding ways to ostracize groups of people.
We moved our main group chat to Signal since the 2 android holdovers were ruining it for the rest of us. Green bubbles get sent to the shadow realm.
My work phone is an iPhone and i disabled iMessage right away.
I highly prefer Android.
Fucking insane. Even outside of the US where Apple pricing is somewhat worse.
I have tons of friends with iPhones in Eastern Europe. They like them, they just don't care about them. From iPhone 7 to 13. They work well, so their job and you just forget about them. They are not interesting gadgets anymore to these people. They are tools.
An interesting gadget is a Galaxy Fold. You pay the price but it's kind of cool.
I work in IT, mostly with Linux. I use Apple stuff all around. Just because people use their phones as a tool and don't want to fuck around with custom ROMs and rice the shit out of them doesn't mean they are tech illiterate. It's just a fact that you can do everything you need to do when it comes to work/entertainment on an iPhone.
Man people are still convinced in 2022 that owning an iPhone is somehow only for the wealthy?
Most carriers hand out iPhones for free, and iPhones going back to 2015 are still supported with new operating system updates.
Most carriers hand out iPhones for free, and iPhones going back to 2015 are still supported with new operating system updates.
Yeah, most iPhones I see in people's hands are still ones with bezels, 8 and earlier. Even the original iPhone SE is still supported.
I disabled imessage on my iphone. But also most my friends have android phones anyway. I usually use android phones as well, but I'm using an iphone now because I got a good deal on it.
But why? Having iMessage enabled doesn't stop you from texting with friends who are on Android.
lmao i hate the future
i have been on apple since the beginning and never understood the whole green bubble this or that thing, but having to even be aware of these things is annoying. family chats and video quality differences and making different groups based on different services, and all this stuff is apportioned and planned from the top down for business reasons, and i'm just watching the real world effects in real time.
it stinks. the incompatabilities stink, the way people have worked around them stink, the way these things are provided to us, sucks. We can jump in an embrace the suck, which has been the life mantra of many for YEARS, but I don't want to.
yes yes.
When i was on a plan that gave me 1 gig of data a month, i had iMessage turned off just as a way to save a couple of MB over the course of a month, because this was back in a time where our plan had "unlimited texting" as a selling point instead of something that was just assumed to exist. It's -really- funny to look back and go "man, remember when I had to remember what time "Night and Weekend" minutes kicked in so my parents didn't murder me for talking to a friend for an hour?
The bolded was specifically the point so I'm not sure how this was possible.
People aren't aware 'iPhones are supported for another 5 years therefore I'll give my kid my iPhone', but people are aware 'my phone still works, gets new features, and apps on it still work, so I'll give my kid the phone as it's good enough'.
The phones having long support aids in the value in the second-hand market being sustained, increasing the likelihood the phone gets recirculated (and then used) rather than just discarded; this increases the likelihood of handing it down and the likelihood of it being resold. This makes 'old' phones still perceived as still being valuable/usable to teens, rather than just 'old'/'worthless'.
The prioritisation of app development on iPhones is relevant because it means even with older, cheaper phones teens are still able to use many of the latest features on their favourite app whereas those features may not be prioritised on Android phones; Snapchat for example allowed the addition of music to Snaps on iOS far before Android supported it. Kids don't know 'this app's development is prioritised on iOS' but they do know 'I can add music onto my Snaps on iOS but not Android'.
We know explicitly the volume of iPhone sales is outpaced by the share of iOS usage, and that's a clear indication of how they're far larger factors than 'its a status symbol' for a teenage market which largely can't afford to self-purchase the latest devices but absolutely can afford (and are willing to get) older models because they still get the features their friends have (or alternatively they'll purchase a new model and then hold on to that for a few years).
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