They discussed it a few episodes back on the podcast. Not sure which one exactly.
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8-4 Play Podcast |OT| A Podcast about Video Games, Japan and Japanese Video Games
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The only thing I remember is them saying something about possibly spoiling the music for people who haven't heard the podcast yet, which is just silly.
But whatever. I still love you, Mark.
Man, I love that Spider-Man theme.
Great show as usual, and I'm also looking forward to the TGS episode.
Great show as usual, and I'm also looking forward to the TGS episode.
I thought someone was impersonating Mark as a bit until they started signing off and I realized the podcast was about to end.
On Yokai Watch, one of the reasons it took so long to come over is that Level-5 is really insistent on the whole media-mix thing and wouldn't release anything until they have a full coordinated rollout with the game, anime, toys, etc and I think that was a mistake--the game and the anime both did okay in certain markets but the toy angle was a massive flop and, I think, a gimmick that stopped working in the US in particular a long time ago. There's also all sorts of rumors surrounding Level-5 IA but I wouldn't even know where to start with those.
They were never going to be able to hang with Pokemon outside of Japan but they sold okay by "brand new, untested 3DS RPG" standards and they could definitely have become a solid franchise in the west had they not been so stubborn about repeating the Japanese playbook in slow-motion, especially once it became obvious it wasn't working. Like, just last week they put out Yokai Watch Blasters/Busters in the US, the three-year-old spinoff game... the audience here simply doesn't exist for that level of milking and definitely doesn't want to wait years and years for this crap.
Beyond all that, Level-5's games are all so cynical that I can't really root for them, they have that Ubisoft-y mix of being very savvy but also thoroughly derivative.
On Yokai Watch, one of the reasons it took so long to come over is that Level-5 is really insistent on the whole media-mix thing and wouldn't release anything until they have a full coordinated rollout with the game, anime, toys, etc and I think that was a mistake--the game and the anime both did okay in certain markets but the toy angle was a massive flop and, I think, a gimmick that stopped working in the US in particular a long time ago. There's also all sorts of rumors surrounding Level-5 IA but I wouldn't even know where to start with those.
They were never going to be able to hang with Pokemon outside of Japan but they sold okay by "brand new, untested 3DS RPG" standards and they could definitely have become a solid franchise in the west had they not been so stubborn about repeating the Japanese playbook in slow-motion, especially once it became obvious it wasn't working. Like, just last week they put out Yokai Watch Blasters/Busters in the US, the three-year-old spinoff game... the audience here simply doesn't exist for that level of milking and definitely doesn't want to wait years and years for this crap.
Beyond all that, Level-5's games are all so cynical that I can't really root for them, they have that Ubisoft-y mix of being very savvy but also thoroughly derivative.
I agree about the rollout being bad, for sure. That said, the games really are great, and the show was good too.
There was a little last episode, IIRC, but not this time.
Considering I was on this episode and literally sat across from Mark coughing in my face the whole time... haha. I can certainly confirm it is indeed him and he was very sick. There is also photo evidence!
Fell behind with 8-4, and so I listened to a few the other day.
The secret direct talk was really funny. Enjoyed listening to Roy, Dermot and Graeme talk. I don't really have game tastes similar to any, but each person's tastes seem diverse and genuine and hearing them talk about games is good fun.
TGS episode was also good. I'm always amazed how Mark can organize all these people going in and out, ensuring everyone has enough time to talk a bit, ensuring all games are talked about. It usually comes across as no big deal, but I would think (for personal experience in facilitating discussions) that it is actually a real skill to have.
I think I have one more to listen to (3 episodes ago?), and hope to do so sometime this week.
The secret direct talk was really funny. Enjoyed listening to Roy, Dermot and Graeme talk. I don't really have game tastes similar to any, but each person's tastes seem diverse and genuine and hearing them talk about games is good fun.
TGS episode was also good. I'm always amazed how Mark can organize all these people going in and out, ensuring everyone has enough time to talk a bit, ensuring all games are talked about. It usually comes across as no big deal, but I would think (for personal experience in facilitating discussions) that it is actually a real skill to have.
I think I have one more to listen to (3 episodes ago?), and hope to do so sometime this week.
That's a weird af title
Also it's setting itself up for some bad puns if it's not profitable/good
Also it's setting itself up for some bad puns if it's not profitable/good
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Congratulations on Dragalia Lost! I'm not that into mobile games, but I'll definitely check it out now that I know 8-4 worked on it.
is it nintendo's long-rumoured-since-sunday-this-week waifu gatcha game where they transform the rest of their franchise into waifus as well
Be honest John- was working on this game the real reason you started playing Granblue again a month or so ago?
Haha, yesterday I binge-watched the second season of The Exorcist and I've just started listening to this podcast, and I was like...wtf...
I'm about 45 minutes in and only now am I starting to believe it is really him. Having also recently recovered from a broken throat, I'm impressed he is able to do the show. That's effort, right there.
i was surprised to head the negative response to the music from nier (1/gestalt/replicant) from the guy who went to the concert. i rarely have strong feelings on game soundtracks, but i love that one and thought it was pretty well received by fans of the game. i am sure the budget for the soundtrack and everything else was bigger for automata, but that didnt retroactively make music from the first game bad to me.
Yo I've been playing this A TON so thank you all for your efforts here. It's great so far!
i thought he was just saying that the orchestration was stronger for automata than nier or something
i think you are probably right. the way it sounded was that the crowd wasnt really into the nier stuff, then came alive during automata. also possible i am misperceiving how people feel about nier's soundtrack.
Enjoyed the episode. Dermot and Graeme both seem to like video games, and play the video games to the end and have opinions on them. That's cool and fun to listen to.
I'm not a Monster Hunter fan, and I can usually find interest in the Monster Hunter talk, but the interview this time seemed to be specially for hardcore Monster Hunter fans. Which is cool, I spaced out listening to it while playing Civilization III.
I'm not a Monster Hunter fan, and I can usually find interest in the Monster Hunter talk, but the interview this time seemed to be specially for hardcore Monster Hunter fans. Which is cool, I spaced out listening to it while playing Civilization III.