okay so what's the difference between Record of the Year and Song of the Year?
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62nd GRAMMY Nominations
- Thread starter Meows
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Record is for best 'recording' so the final product basically
Song is all about the composition/ songwriter
Wow Billie Eilish cleaned house taking home seemingly half the awards. Poor Lil Nas X though. He had the most successful song in the history of the Billboard charts and it didn't win song of the year. Ouch
Your music can be "good" and you can still be a total industry plant, they're not mutually exclusive. Her rich parents hire the best creatives for each department to completely manufacture a sound and brand and aesthetic that's marketable and enjoyable
except if you watch her in interviews and shit she's 100% the real deal
industry plant shit is nonsense anyway
But...there are only 5 people who worked on the music for the album?
It's really not but ok. You're allowed to be a fan of Billie lol nobody's stopping you. The music isn't bad or anything
5 people (and their employees, companies, etc) on the album, X people on the marketing for the album, Y people on the distribution, Z people on the visuals, and so on and so forth. Not to mention the literal army of stylists and shoppers that arrange all her weird tryhard 2014-era Tumblr outfits
This is isn't a difficult concept tbh. Her career was generated from insane hollywood nepotism and privilege, whether you want that to affect your perception and enjoyment of her content is up to you. There's no wrong answer imo just know where it's from and don't ever think she started from the bottom or struggled or ever was "indie" or earned her stripes doing it all DIY because she definitely didn't. It's all privilege.
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At least she writes her own songs, some people who've been in the industry for decades can't even claim that.
If it's so easy, why don't they do it with 100 other artists and make billions?
Even more so when you consider that someone as rich as Justin Bieber was literally begging for fans to get him to number one and lost out to some viral no-name because his song was just straight up better.
It would be odd to conclude any of this from watching the actual artist and her brother at work.
But keep spreading cynical conspiracies I guess.
This is a whole bunch of bullshit and you have no idea what you're talking about.
Obviously a rich kid with rich parents is privileged and finds success easier, no one's denying that.
But you're just making up shit. "best creatives for each department to completely manufacture a sound" is pure gobbledygook. She's a songwriter and singer like any other. She had equipment in her room and her brother had equipment in his room and together they created the sound and made music.
There's plenty of documentation of how they just jammed and played and found her sound, organically.
The fantasy of executives pressing a button and hits coming out is.. just that, a fantasy. Labels scour for talents, fairly mercilessly, sure, but they have no secret sauce for success, especially when someone sounds as little like the rest of the Billboard as this.
The rockist boogeyman idea of everyone with some style being 'manufactured' any more than bearded dudes in a guitar band is badly outdated.
The funniest thing about this is the seemingly random year you picked to typify her fashion sense.
i don't really agree with that poster, but "she got popular on youtube first" doesn't really contradict what they're saying, a good marketing/publicist team would absolutely use YouTube as a way to build a quote-unquote underground persona.
Happy for her wins. She's talented and deserves recognition.
Can't say I'm surprised to see what this thread has devolved to. Any time Billie's name is brought up, it usually turns out like this.
Can't say I'm surprised to see what this thread has devolved to. Any time Billie's name is brought up, it usually turns out like this.
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Woman does something great, insecure men immediately point to how fake she is and how much help she needed to get where she is. You're gross.
Well, you should try to read about it first, because it's not.
It is true especially for women but this idea of plants has long been a go-to for conspiracy nuts who just want to shit on artists they don't like or don't like the fact that they won some award.
Please also consider the fact that she is a demonic puppet whose sole mission is to spread the influence of the Devil to the youth of the world, as I recently learned from some Youtube comments.
Check out this imaginary link to a video about the modern spiritual crisis for more important details.
Anyone know if there is a link to the full nipsey tribute performance? Its frustratingly hard to find anything other than 30 second clips
This happens, what's popular is not always the best. He might win something like people's choice awards or more popularity based ones.
I could go into the reasons why it's pure bullshit but you're not really worth my time and it won't change your mind.
If you think that Billie album was the best thing released last year.. listen to more music. It's more and more of a popularity contest every year. Lil Nas EP as AOTY? Lana winning nothing when her influence can be found in the DNA of so many artists ( including Billie) ? Come on, they want the ratings and want to be sure they aren't being accused of being out of touch anymore ( Ex/ idk how many people remember how folks lost their minds when Steely Dan won in 2001)
