I mean the democrats had to read the whole thing out loud for everybody to hear. I'm sure the republicans heard it then.
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$60 Billion Tax Hike on Wealthy/Big Corporations Hidden in Stimulus Bill
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I mean the democrats had to read the whole thing out loud for everybody to hear. I'm sure the republicans heard it then.
It's a decent start I guess. There's at least a trillion more out there that needs to be taken back. In other words, unless a filibuster goes, we got 2 more shots to get near that and more. Trump tax cuts gotta go.
And Republicans can't say that they didn't know this was there, since it was read aloud. They probably left the chamber before the clerk got to the section.
and hopefully more to come. I would like a lot of tax increases on the ways wealthy people make and maintain their money. Force that money back into circulation.
Yeah any sort of cut skewed towards the wealthy should be good. The vacuum suction of wealth to the top has to be reversed.
They might have heard if they were actually in the room listening to it.
There were like one or two Senators on the floor at any given time during the reading.
Bills are also written in precise legalese so they usually aren't going to be that easily decipherable for the layman (common misconception is that the Congresspeople/Senators write the bill themselves - they tell their aides and congressional workers what they want the bill to do, and then they write the bill to make sure it actually can function as law).
Hidden from the lobbyists who didn't have time to put the squeeze on their senators before the vote.
It's usually not the senators themselves that hold up progress. It's their handlers.
Have you ever dosed off in the middle of a really dry lecture?
Or...uhh...started playing Hearthstone under the table?
Not speaking from experience or anything, but I imagine it's something like that.
None of them were paying attention and they all eventually left while the reading was going on.
I am not someone who supports "taxes for the sake of taxes" but I am glad they added additional revenue to this bill, even if it is minor.
Except a death tax. Everyone should be taxed when they inherit wealth.
Except a death tax. Everyone should be taxed when they inherit wealth.
That's true for the GoP, what we have now is the GQP though and as shown here, they're remarkably incompetent.
So wait, was this in the one they read out loud?
Because that's some karmatic justice i've been craving.
Republicans wanted them to read the bill out loud, then promptly left. Hidden in the bill was tax hikes that would effect them more than anything. Hilarious
Because that's some karmatic justice i've been craving.
Republicans wanted them to read the bill out loud, then promptly left. Hidden in the bill was tax hikes that would effect them more than anything. Hilarious
I'm still waiting for those income taxes on the wealthy.
I wish I could schadenfreude this, but as the classic saying goes - scoreboard.
The rich have been feasting for 40+ years now, and then took out the entire buffet during the pandemic. A feast so gluttonous that it would make the old Gilded Age robber barons cry.
They're not sweating 60 billion, and that's even assuming every dollar of that is even collected. We all know how that game is usually played. We need a lot more to make them actually sweat.
The rich have been feasting for 40+ years now, and then took out the entire buffet during the pandemic. A feast so gluttonous that it would make the old Gilded Age robber barons cry.
They're not sweating 60 billion, and that's even assuming every dollar of that is even collected. We all know how that game is usually played. We need a lot more to make them actually sweat.
That's how we're 'paying' for the next giant reconciliation bill.
OOPS??
That's why you're supposed to do your job. Republicans have been thinking their job for the longest time was simply to obstruct everything and keep feeding the country's wealth to the wealthy and shore up their position the power structure. Good start, much more work to be done. They got away with it for 4 years without actually having to do any work.
I am not a fan of trying to hide things in bills, especially if unrelated. At least the argument can be made the hikes are to cover some of the stimulus.
But I find it hilarious that Republicans took the time to read it out loud so nothing would be hidden, and it slipped through.
REPUBLICANS IN FAVOR OF TAX INCREASES!
But I find it hilarious that Republicans took the time to read it out loud so nothing would be hidden, and it slipped through.
REPUBLICANS IN FAVOR OF TAX INCREASES!
The whole bill was read out loud at a republicans request. Nothing hidden here...if only they stayed the whole time.
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I mean... it's a $1.9 trillion dollar spending bill. No one can be reasonably expected to go through it item-by-item. It's not so much that stuff is "hidden," if there was anything nefarious someone would have noticed and pointed it out, it's just that it's a lot.
Like I'm guessing most posters on here could at most tell you about the $1400 checks, the UI extension/tax exemption and the child allowance, but that's not even half the bill.
In an ideal world they might be able to separate these provisions out in the interest of full transparency, but it had to be passed through reconciliation, and they can only do that once per year (the federal calendar is weird so they'll technically get to do another one later this year). This was their shot.
There's no way they can do another budget reconciliation without doing a lot more tax hikes.
Increase funding for the IRS and establish a mandate that they focus on the rich and you'll get a lot more compliance I imagine.
OK, the Dems in charge often maneuver like fucking flaccid noodles around the GOP, but this is pretty good. I like this news.