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How Popular Is Joe Biden?

Latest polls on President Joe Biden’s approval ratings

Still lower than Obamas 62% in the same time frame.

Nice to see. Trump got only 46-47 percent of the vote in each election, Biden got over 51 percent, so his approval should be a lot higher than the guy who lost the popular vote by a combined 10 million votes. It was expected to be lower than Obama's because we are a lot more divided than even 2008.

Oh, and Rasmussen has Trump at 48 percent approval, but they had Trump at 51 percent approval on his last day in office (while other pollsters had him in the 30's and low 40's). They should be shut down.
 

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Nice to see. Trump got only 46-47 percent of the vote in each election, Biden got over 51 percent, so his approval should be a lot higher than the guy who lost the popular vote by a combined 10 million votes. It was expected to be lower than Obama's because we are a lot more divided than even 2008.

Oh, and Rasmussen has Trump at 48 percent approval, but they had Trump at 51 percent approval on his last day in office (while other pollsters had him in the 30's and low 40's). They should be shut down.
Aggregators like 538 account for partisan bias in pollsters
 

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Obama's numbers had more to do with W being a complete and total failure, and people were just happy somebody in charge took on a leadership role
 

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Obama's numbers had more to do with W being a complete and total failure, and people were just happy somebody in charge took on a leadership role

Trump was an utter failure too. The difference is that the population is much more brainwashed than it was in 2008 thanks to Facebook, YouTube, Fox News, OANN, Newsmax, etc. W didn't have a massive cult like Trump does.
 

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18% gap is way bigger than I expected. I'm sure the 54% is mostly people who voted for him/leaned toward him to begin with, so I'd bet that gap is mostly Republicans/conservatives who have more of an "eh, no strong feelings" sort of position. Not what you'd think considering the polarization. Those are the Republicans who would probably end up sticking with the party over Trump in the future.
 

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Seems like it can only go down.

Not sure what it is going to take to get any kind of unity in this country again.
 

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Biden isn't getting that Obama push.

Obama was a world historic symbolic win for Black folks worldwide. White Liberals, independents, and moderates were extremely excited at absolving themselves and America of racism via his victory. Biden can't give them that for obvious reasons.
 

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I mean following trump should be the same phenomenon, arguably significantly more so
It should be, but things are so polarized now that Biden probably won't hit 60% approval unless his administration blows past their COVID goals and nearly everyone is vaccinated by the end of the summer.
 

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How Popular Is Joe Biden?

Latest polls on President Joe Biden’s approval ratings

Still lower than Obamas 62% in the same time frame.
Encouraging numbers. But not surprirsed it's not as high as Obama's numbers. Some of Trump's camp are never going to change their minds...so right there, you're down ~30-40% (so...best case, ~60-70%). The political climate is so divided, too, that these numbers aren't too far off of the total vote count.
 

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Country is a lot more partisan at this point honestly. Feel like these are good numbers in the face of that.
 

shinobi602

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Meh, half the country opted to give Trump another 4 years after the catastrophe that was his presidency.

I won't give 'approval numbers' any mind.
 

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Biden isn't getting that Obama push.

Obama was a world historic symbolic win for Black folks worldwide. White Liberals, independents, and moderates were extremely excited at absolving themselves and America of racism via his victory. Biden can't give them that for obvious reasons.
They still trying with Kamala. Almost solved sexism and racism in one fell swoop.
 

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Obama's numbers were in part so high because he wasn't Bush. By 2008 even a lot of Republicans were sick of Bush, whereas unfortunately Trump still has the R base on lockdown.
 

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Obama's numbers had more to do with W being a complete and total failure, and people were just happy somebody in charge took on a leadership role

Naw, it was more than just that. Obama was the best political figure since JFK. Master orator, huge amounts of charisma, and inspired optimism rather than the Bush-Cheney platform of fear and endless war. Biden presents competence and experience, but he doesn't electrify anyone the way Obama did in 2008.
 

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Naw, it was more than just that. Obama was the best political figure since JFK. Master orator, huge amounts of charisma, and inspired optimism rather than the Bush-Cheney platform of fear and endless war. Biden presents competence and experience, but he doesn't electrify anyone the way Obama did in 2008.

Obama's charisma played a role, no doubt. But you also have to look at Trump's "charisma" compared to W. W was leaving in 2008 with a highly unpopular Iraqi War and the economy failing and he took heat from republicans and dems alike and had historically low approval. Meanwhile Trump left with 400k Americans dead from a Pandemic and the economy in even worse shape than W left but most of the GOP didn't hold him accountable for either and instead turned out in record numbers.
 

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I just want to imagine Trump throwing another hissy fit when he got this news.
 

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Probably near his ceiling considering how off the deep end into Fascism Conservatives have gone. I imagine there will also be a dip because of a slow economic recovery at some point.
 

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I doubt it ever gets much higher due to the state of US politics right now...

Yeah, it may go up 1% - 2% or drop and return to this numbers in momente when popular measures are approved and signed into law. But aside of that, it will probably just see two spikes that reach the 60s (Next stimulus + announcement we have reached Herd Immunity and can begin to walk towards normality), and afterwards stay once more in the low - mid 50s range.