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4Chan Rumor: Square Enix might sell off its western division to Ubisoft after the latest disappointment from Marvel's Avengers.
- Thread starter Chairmanchuck (另一个我)
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You wouldn't secure Avengers for anything, FYI. You don't get to randomly change predetermined licensing deals like that.
Would a delayed PC release be acceptable(Like what Sony has been doing lately with their PC ports)?
Either way, I just think Tomb Raider needs that glow-up, and so does Deus Ex and Thief. They would just be freaking stunning when treated as exclusives. I wish one of these juggernauts would consider it.
Yeah the entirety of FFXV's plot leaked on 4chan, there's been some other stuff too I believe.
Yeah. it's probably pretty hard to determine currently. Avengers has had huge growth since then (like we see from box office numbers). Of course films are not only barometer for the success of the brand though.There's this graph but it's from 2014 so Avengers has probably grown quite significantly:
That is fine too but "lately"?
They've only done that for Horizon and its not consistent.
In the West it's only FF and KH that do massive numbers, Nier was an outliner, but the rest? Is not relevant outside Japan.
Fair enough, let's say they do it for these properties. Would you accept this if it meant an amazing quality game backed either by their budget or by one of Sony's first party studios?
Please, no. Crystal Dynamics sucks, but under a better management I can see them becoming better. Every single Ubisoft game feels the same, doesn't matter who make it.
IOI is not a part of Square Enix anymore, i think they are an independent studio that's partnered with WB.
Deus Ex and Thief being exclusive to a console is the worst timeline a PC gamer can imagine.
It was largely Invisible War and Thief 3 being cut in scope to accommodate consoles that were responsible for the PC Master race sentiment back in 2000s.
I said "in recent years". The TR that did well is like 7 years old by now.
While I'm happy to dismiss this specific rumour out of hand, I do have to acknowledge that the former Edios has had a remarkably shitty generation (it's really only Rise of the Tomb Raider that could be argued didn't bomb, everything else was a flop fest) and everyone's on high alert for major acquisitions after the Zenimax deal. Square Enix selling off its Western studios in the relatively near future is something I could plausibly see happen, and I could see them adding a few IPs to pump up the price tag (although Tomb Raider is 100% staying put).
I kinda want to know the story behind thisThe amount of grains of salt needed for this rumor:
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I was trying to edit my previous post to answer the question lol.
To answer your question of course, I love Sony's IPs and have almost all of their first party titles on the PS4 (except for Days Gone, Last of Us Part 2 and Concrete Genie - all of which I will get sometime next year when the sales deals are better).
I dont doubt their development studios as I enjoyed a lot of the games from Sony.
In terms of development Sony or MS over Ubisoft for sure. Ubisoft is the worst.
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Its a real shame too, Cory Barlog was the cinematics director for Reboot Raider, and the Lost Legacy duo is chilling at Naughty Dog. Plenty of Sony talent that is perfect for helping CD course correct for Tomb Raider. The same thing is true for Deus Ex, but with Eidos/Microsoft.
I'm not the one you asked, but I personally think Arkane is much more equipped to deal with franchises like Thief and Deus Ex than any of the Sony's first-party studios, Sony doesn't even make immersive sims. Tomb Raider is a different matter, but I'd like to see what Ninja Theory can make with a property.
You make an excellent point! I don't blame the talent in the studios. I really think something is off from the publisher's point of view...
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Selling off entire studio branches 2 months after a disappointing launch would be the quickest turn over ever. So this seems very unlikely. These rumors would have had to start last November to be seen as possible.
Also their western studios are working on Athia aren't they?
Also their western studios are working on Athia aren't they?
Square Enix has an enormous amount of it's value tied to assets that aren't going to help them sell consoles, like MMOs, mobile, and Manga.
It would probably be in the Bethesda price range but without the huge 30+ million selling IP like Elder Scrolls. It's possible MS could just not give a shit and buy them anyways knowing they'd never recoup their investment, but that's not typically how companies operate.
For some reason i thought his name was Balrog and now im disappointed it isnt ;___;
When the FF movie bombed so bad, Enix came to the rescue and merged with Square. Don't know how much sales were of Avengers but just because SE is a big company now, doesn't mean they can afford to make big losses in gaming, if it'll affect the company bottomline. They aren't MS with deep pockets
Based on pretty outdated sales numbers (as of 2017 for the first two, only 3 months of sales for the third), the first one did 11 million, the second 7 million and the third 4.2 million.
Which series at Square-Enix sells that well other than Final Fantasy and and maybe Kingdom Hearts if you include the third entry?
While I think that Squeenix may be interested in floating the idea of selling off some western divisions potentially golds water, the selling off to Ubisoft seems dubious at best. I would not be surprised to hear other publishers being interested
SE screwed CD/Eidos at quite literally every step of the way this gen
Rise of the Tomb Raider - Xbox timed exclusity
Deus Ex - Forcing the resource draining MP mode unto Mankind Divided, when its obvious that Eidos was having none of it
Shadow of the Tomb Raider - Launching opposite Spider-Man (what in the actual fuck was SE smoking?!)
Avengers - Spider-Man Sony exclusivity
Not one release, did they not fumble in some way or another
That is the subsidiary that's been burning money for them so it's not out of the question to spin them off.
But to Ubisoft out of all companies? I don't buy it.
Didn't Rise also get the double whammy of launching on the same day as Fallout 4? I remember thinking why Microsoft or Square didn't consider delaying just a little bit.
i think Sony can benefit more from Square Enix compared to the Microsoft
because they make anime and mobile games too
Jesus, I did not even remember that one...what an absolute train wreck
I don't think this is true
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Why are people assuming Square would not sell their western IPs? Literally all of them bombed lol, the only one that could be worth something is Tomb Raider.
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Why are people assuming Square would not sell their western IPs? Literally all of them bombed lol, the only one that could be worth something is Tomb Raider.
Nope. Enix and Square was already talking about merging. The bombed movie actually made them delay the merger because Enix lost confidence.
I could see this being a Lionhead scenario. (Microsoft / Fable)
The publisher is unhappy with the output of their studio(s). So they want to sell the studio(s) to recoup some money, but potential buyers would only make the purchase if the IP is included. The result is a studio closure or two.
No publisher sells IP.
The publisher is unhappy with the output of their studio(s). So they want to sell the studio(s) to recoup some money, but potential buyers would only make the purchase if the IP is included. The result is a studio closure or two.
No publisher sells IP.
I can see Square Enix doing this, quite honestly. They're a Japanese gaming company, so that's an automatic -20 to their ability to do international business, and lot/most of the Eidos related stuff is based out of Montreal, where Ubisoft has a presence. It's probably easier to sell it to them than Microsoft or Sony, who'd have to get up to date with the Quebec laws.
True though SE gave up the Hitman IP for free. They're a bit weird in that context.
they could never release a tomb raider game again still that's fuckloads of passive revenue there
IP ownership isn't always about how this or that game bomba'd
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