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4Chan Rumor: Square Enix might sell off its western division to Ubisoft after the latest disappointment from Marvel's Avengers.
- Thread starter Chairmanchuck (另一个我)
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And I would find the rumor believable with all of those points except the IP. Not a chance Square gives those up
Yes, Sony want them without the western studios. They sell and afterwards are bought by Sony.
Assassin's Creed isn't even annual anymore, let alone most of their AAA franchises.
Oh, I misunderstood the relationship between SE and IOI then. I thought IOI had bought itself and Hitman from Square back then.
14 million in the first 6 months is GTA level. That's what I mean when I said SEs projections for their games are in a different reality and cannot be used as a measure of what constitutes success in our current market. Using that as the basis of why they should sell off half their company seems unimaginably silly, the idea that this is coming from a 4chan post even more so.
Mentioning how frequent the games go on sale as a way to question their profitablity, but ignoring the fact that all these games have season passes and higher profit returns because of it seems like a misstep on your part.
I'm not saying this can't happen, but if it did it would be insane and not because as you said, they have released no successful games in 10 years. That's crazy.
All I care about is getting another damn Deus Ex game lol.
I mean, ofc this isnt actually happening. First of all, they shuold have known this was going to be a risky launch. Especially if they were paying attention to what just happened with Anthem. GAAS games are basically the new MMOs. Everyone wants to make one, but they rarely commit the time and effort into doing it right. They have an ok platform to build on right now, should they decide to continue working on it.
Whoever is in charge of their Western development studios needs to be fired though lol. They keep making this stupid decisions and then blaming the developers for their epic failures.
I mean, ofc this isnt actually happening. First of all, they shuold have known this was going to be a risky launch. Especially if they were paying attention to what just happened with Anthem. GAAS games are basically the new MMOs. Everyone wants to make one, but they rarely commit the time and effort into doing it right. They have an ok platform to build on right now, should they decide to continue working on it.
Whoever is in charge of their Western development studios needs to be fired though lol. They keep making this stupid decisions and then blaming the developers for their epic failures.
i don't believe it
but
if it is so
deus ex is gonna end in the same grave as Splinter Cell and Might&Magic
but
if it is so
deus ex is gonna end in the same grave as Splinter Cell and Might&Magic
If there's no corroborating evidence, might as well. I could go on there right now and post that Microsoft is in talks to buy Nintendo, would hold just as much water as this.
Frankly, Eidos and CD would be better off at Ubisoft... or EA.... or Activision ... or Tencet (... or , of course, MS/Sony)
Anyone else would be an improvement
Anyone else would be an improvement
Oh. You might be right (I just thought about the massive success of Avengers films which dwarf Spider-man films in box office). Would be nice to have some actual figures. Still nevertheless one of the biggest entertainment brands in the world though.
I somehow doubt this.
Eidos Montreal aren't exactly a good fit for the Ubigame- unless Siege 2 is gonna have cyborgs with augmentations. In which case, yeah, they can probably fold EM into Ubisoft Montreal.
Crystal Dynamics I can see, I guess.
As for the IPs... yeah, no. Eidos has a treasure trove of retro IPs that occasionally bring Squeeenix some extra scratch from Steam and GOG sales. There's little point in just giving that away.
Eidos Montreal aren't exactly a good fit for the Ubigame- unless Siege 2 is gonna have cyborgs with augmentations. In which case, yeah, they can probably fold EM into Ubisoft Montreal.
Crystal Dynamics I can see, I guess.
As for the IPs... yeah, no. Eidos has a treasure trove of retro IPs that occasionally bring Squeeenix some extra scratch from Steam and GOG sales. There's little point in just giving that away.
Why would they do that? 4chan has had legit stuff before in fact plenty of stuff. However, it rarely happens and there shouldn't be a thread about just any 4chan rumour unless they have been credible.
A lot of people who have been upset at how SE has handled their western division.
This +1 seriously.
Ubisoft, EA, Activision, Nintendo and Sony would be the worst.
Taketwo/2K wouldnt be good either but still better option than the above.
All their sucess in recent years comes from the japanese branch. That branch also makes them like a billion each year in mobile $$$.
Them selling their western branch wouldn't be THAT weird, but this rumor seems like BS.
This is incorrect, IO probably had a clause in their contract that allowed them to get it back when they went independent. IO owns Hitman
Not that I believe this rumor, but for the sake of argument, Square Enix would be the one evaluating the viability of their divisions, so what they think constitutes a failure does matter. If we and every other publisher on the planet thinks 3.8M copies is good means nothing if SE sees it as a failure.
Some publishers are infamous for setting impossibly high standards for studios and using their inevitable shortfall as an excuse to shut them down or cancel projects.
Yes, not doubting the money they make, but it's from only a handful of IPs, which is why they wouldn't do this.
There's this graph but it's from 2014 so Avengers has probably grown quite significantly:
Tomb Raider is the biggest IP SE has and the second-best selling IP of their whole catalogue. If it weren't for their mismanagement it would be by far their best-selling IP.
You are explaining why I think a sale isn't that unlikely in your post. They are mismanaged AF in their western branch and constantly lose money and let easy wins slide by.
All their Japanese IP are way more consistent than their Tomb Raider version in sales.
Selling Eidos and CD? Sure
Selling their respective IPs? Do we need to have the Konami-Silent Hill-Sony discussion again?
Selling their respective IPs? Do we need to have the Konami-Silent Hill-Sony discussion again?
I'm sure the western division of Square Enix is in a tough spot right now. It's probably easy to see the performance of their games in terms of how much Final Fantasy profit did they burn, and how many Final Fantasy games could have been made with their budget.
That said I'm not sure a deal could be reached this quickly short of it being a gift.
That said I'm not sure a deal could be reached this quickly short of it being a gift.
Does anybody think that Sony or Microsoft is interested in Square Enix? Securing Tomb Raider, Final Fantasy, Thief, Deus Ex and Avengers for your brand is quite a feat.
I wish Sony would consider splurging. The glow up these games would get under Sony's hand would just be stunning.
I wish Sony would consider splurging. The glow up these games would get under Sony's hand would just be stunning.
So eidos? That would be nuts but Avengers was probably a massive blunder that will probably mean the beginning of the end for CD.
Exclusivity locked out of PC is something I dont want to see for IPs like Deus Ex and Tomb Raider.
Now if Sony would release those IPs on PC alongside on Playstation, I wouldnt mind (which is why I wouldnt mind MS doing it).
Not FF, western IPs - meaning Eidos group (Tomb Raider, Deus Ex, etc).
You want to know what is funny?
When I was younger I always thought Dues Ex was a Ubisoft game.
When I was younger I always thought Dues Ex was a Ubisoft game.
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If we talking just the western branch, I would imagine Microsoft being more likely to bite, if it's the entirety of SE, I could see Sony being willing to bite the bullet in order to not lose Final Fantasy.
Sure, but you said all their success came from their japanese branch when that isn't true because Tomb Raider exists. The rumour here is quite unlikely because it includes Tomb Raider which is very lucrative for sure.
And consistency doesn't matter much when they still sell far less than Tomb Raider at its worst - that should show you the strength of that IP. At its best it sells way above any Final Fantasy game.
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