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caff!!!

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got one of the budget LG ultrawide monitors, great for tripletasking and playing truck sims
How do you force 16:9 aspect ratio without stretching image on 21.9 monitor? I would rather play PUBG 16:9 with black bars than zoomed in 21:9 and I don't want 16:9 stretched to fill the screen. Is my only option to play windowed?
I know nvidia allows scaling to be done on GPU in Nvidia control panel > adjust desktop size and position > select aspect ratio scaling
 

alosarjos

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Hi there!

As I said before, I've been working on a 21:9 Netflix Firefox extension. I have a 2560x1080 monitor, so I can not test it on bigger resolutions. I have a patch that could fix it, so I would like to know if there is someone with a bigger 21:9 resolution that could try it
 

Pargon

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How do you force 16:9 aspect ratio without stretching image on 21.9 monitor? I would rather play PUBG 16:9 with black bars than zoomed in 21:9 and I don't want 16:9 stretched to fill the screen. Is my only option to play windowed?
You just select 2560x1440 rather than 3440x1440 (or 1920x1080 rather than 2560x1080).
In the NVIDIA Control Panel, make sure that you have the scaling mode set to Aspect Ratio in "Adjust desktop size and position" and scaling set to the GPU rather than the display.
 

takriel

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Here's hoping for proper 21:9 support for the Dark Souls Remaster. LOL who am I kidding.
 

tatwo

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got one of the budget LG ultrawide monitors, great for tripletasking and playing truck sims
I know nvidia allows scaling to be done on GPU in Nvidia control panel > adjust desktop size and position > select aspect ratio scaling

You just select 2560x1440 rather than 3440x1440 (or 1920x1080 rather than 2560x1080).
In the NVIDIA Control Panel, make sure that you have the scaling mode set to Aspect Ratio in "Adjust desktop size and position" and scaling set to the GPU rather than the display.

Got it working the way I wanted. Thanks.
 

andymoogle

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FFXII will have 21:9 support :) Hopefully it will be more common with Japanese titles in the future.
 

DrJackson

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Oct 29, 2017
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Happy PG348Q owner reporting in. Basically bought the monitor first, then built the PC around it. Cant imagine going back to 16:9. You need VR to get better immersion than playing on a curved ultrawide imo.
 

The Heape

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Oct 27, 2017
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I was looking at getting the Samsung 49" 32:9 monitor as I was interested in both the ultra wide display and the idea that I could have 2 different sources at the same time. Do you think that would be a better route than getting a 21:9 and second 16:9?
 
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I would love 49" 32:9 monitor but I would need a vertical resolution of 1440p for me to bite, I currently have an x34 and love it, I really hope consoles support 21:9 in the future.
 

LoyalPhoenix

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anyone mind pointing me in the direction of a good, cheap/affordable 21:9 monitor? I live in Canada all I see are extremely expensive ones.
 

Crispy75

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32:9 is really stretching (lol) the limits of rectilinear projection. The perspective distortion at the edges is ridiculous (which is why they're showing empty sea in that screenshot!). If you're running 100° at 16:9, then 21:9 is 115° while 32:9 is 134° which is into serious distortion territory. Not only does it look weird, but as the distortion increases you have to render more and more pixels to display the same object (ie. the pixels/degree gets worse towards the edges)

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At this sort of aspect ratio, curved screens with matching cylindrical projection would give a much more natural image.
 

impingu1984

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Are there 4k 21:9?
144hz?

I want a 21:9 but I also want the above. No way can I do anything less than 1440p.

When is this guy going to get more in? I bought a 1440p from him years and years ago https://m.ebay.com/itm/US-BLACK-FRI...quot-Gaming-Monitor-/322786799389?_mwBanner=1

You can get 21:9 1440p 100hz... but as with all monitor tech in past few years, it will be old hat very soon...

Prepare your wallet for 21:9 35 inch 3440x1440 200hz Gsync with HDR

https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/predator-series/predatorx35

Coming Soon...

2019 I wouldn't be surprise to see 5120x2160 honestly
 

Pargon

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I feel like I'm peeking through a letterbox..
I feel like the size of these monitors has to increase so that the lack of verticality isn't emphasised so much.
2.39:1 is about the right aspect ratio for this in my opinion.

With 1.78:1 (16:9) displays, I have found that the limiting factor on how close I want to sit to the screen is its height.
When I sit as close as I comfortably can to a 16:9 display, there's still a large gap at the edges of my vision.

With a 2.39:1 (21.5:9) display, when I sit at the same distance as a 16:9 display based on height, the display extends out into my peripheral vision and provides a more immersive experience.

With a 3.56:1 (32:9) display, or multi-monitor setups, I find that I either have to sit farther back from the screen to accommodate its width - which makes them look short - or I lose a lot of the extra width to my periphery if I am sitting closer to fill my view vertically like the 1.78:1 or 2.39:1 displays.

Now if multi-res shading were a more universally supported feature, I might have different feelings about it, as it certainly does cover more of your peripheral vision when you sit close.
But I feel that there's little useful benefit of wider-than-2.39:1 display setups. I'd much rather have a larger 2.39:1 display, like a 58" 5120x2160 TV for example.
Another factor is that the majority of movies are ~2.39:1 native. Going wider than that just means having black bars at the edges of the display.
 

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impingu1984

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$1 million dollars ha! Crazy stuff. How come HDR isn't as popular on monitors?

Yeah the million USD for 5120x2160 is a 100 inch screen..... Seriously Monitor tech is changing so quickly... Which is annoying as it get drip fed every year.

In 2016 a 21:9 3440x1440 VA / IPS Gsync 200hz and HDR panel was not a thought... You will be able to buy one in 2018.

In 2019 there will be a 5120x2160 PC monitor 60hz... cost will be expensive but $3,000 ballpark my guess.

I keep holding off a 21:9 monitor simply because by the time I've saved for one a better one is on the horizon.. that's been true for the last couple of years... Still on 1080p 144hz TN Panel WITHOUT Freesync / GSync

HDR is slowly happening but the OS support and GPU Driver support is a clusterfuck. IIRC the Creators Update borked it by conflicting with NVIDIA Drivers at least... think it's settled down now but still on W7 so idk. HDR isn't supported on anything other than W10 natively tho I think you can HDR on Win 7 in Exclusive fullscreen (Via the GPU Drivers)

Few games support HDR on PC (I can think of 2).

But 2018 all the new high end monitors are starting to offer HDR... they just aren't out yet.
 

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impingu1984 we should just bite the bullet and get something OK for now. Save up and buy the gangster monitor that never comes years down the road.

Might just grab a 1440p one.
 
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Still here. :-)

Right now my main monitor is an LG 34UM68-P.
I'm saving up for their 34UC89G-B model. 34" 2560x1080 ips, 144hz (oc to 166hz), Gsync.

I have no desire to move up to 3440x1440 right now. Mainly because I won't be upgrading my graphics card (980 ti) for another few years, but also because they top out at 120hz for ips panels.
By the time I'm ready to upgrade my graphics card, 3440x1440 144hz will be a thing, and graphics cards will be able to push them easier.

That said, I'll never go back to 16:9 monitors if given the choice. 21:9 gaming is amazing.
 

shadowhaxor

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You can get 21:9 1440p 100hz... but as with all monitor tech in past few years, it will be old hat very soon...

Prepare your wallet for 21:9 35 inch 3440x1440 200hz Gsync with HDR

https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/predator-series/predatorx35

Coming Soon...

2019 I wouldn't be surprise to see 5120x2160 honestly
Been waiting on the X35 for a while now, but we likely won't it until mid 2018. Right now I own a LG32UM94-P and had it since they released it. A workhorse and loved it.... until my son put scratch in the anti-glare coating. I have OCD when it comes to my electronics and even though you can't see it when playing games or working (unless it's white), I hunt it down.

But it's given me a chance to pick up a 3440x1400 100hz+ G-sync monitor. Picking up either the Alienware AW3418DW vs Acer Predator Z35P, either today or tomorrow.
 

impingu1984

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Been waiting on the X35 for a while now, but we likely won't it until mid 2018. Right now I own a LG32UM94-P and had it since they released it. A workhorse and loved it.... until my son put scratch in the anti-glare coating. I have OCD when it comes to my electronics and even though you can't see it when playing games or working (unless it's white), I hunt it down.

But it's given me a chance to pick up a 3440x1400 100hz+ G-sync monitor. Picking up either the Alienware AW3418DW vs Acer Predator Z35P, either today or tomorrow.

Heard good things about the AOC ag352ucg... 3440 x1440 Gsync 100hz.... often is priced very well
 

Sleepyhead86

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Been waiting on the X35 for a while now, but we likely won't it until mid 2018. Right now I own a LG32UM94-P and had it since they released it. A workhorse and loved it.... until my son put scratch in the anti-glare coating. I have OCD when it comes to my electronics and even though you can't see it when playing games or working (unless it's white), I hunt it down.

But it's given me a chance to pick up a 3440x1400 100hz+ G-sync monitor. Picking up either the Alienware AW3418DW vs Acer Predator Z35P, either today or tomorrow.

In the same boat, waiting on the new x35 or pg35, but the wait was killing me.

The Alienware AW3418DW is showing up today...
 

Teiresias

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Oct 27, 2017
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Really have enjoyed my PG348 the past year. The Witcher 3 is glorious on it, but I still comfy couch game more than play on it - though 21:9 is really great for productivity work as well. I did buy a 1080 Ti to drive it (luckily before the recent mining price spikes).
 

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shadowhaxor

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Heard good things about the AOC ag352ucg... 3440 x1440 Gsync 100hz.... often is priced very well
I'm just concerned about the VA panel.A few have stated it has some ghosting. I haven't had a hands-on since Microcenter can't keep them in stock.

However, the AW3418DW is just $999. Sure, it's a hit in my bank account and my wife is likely gonna bitch... but yeah. I'll claim it as a work expense for next year.
 

Sleepyhead86

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Finally got the Dell AW3418DW delivered, everything looks good, and man did I miss G-sync. The curve will take some getting used to, more so in desktop use, because while gaming it immerses you.

The base was too big to fit on my monitor stand, so I had to order a monitor arm mount so I can put the PS4 back on the desk.

Really impressed with the build quality of it, lightbleed is minimal, mostly on the bottom left corner.

All in all, I hope to keep this monitor for at least 3 years.

Previous Setup w/LG 34UM68P had to remove my mousepad to wash 'cause it was DIRTY!!:
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New setup:
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Zabojnik

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Before I go into it, I'd like to clear by no means I'm starting a 4K vs UltraWide rant, just my personal opinion and what I'm looking forward to in the upcoming tech.

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Zabojnik, beautiful screenshot from Zelda, fam. Shared it with a few buddies of mine.
Thanks m8, it really is a nice screenshot. Who said that furiously tapping on the capture key at random times doesn't yield results. :P

As for the whole UW vs. 4K debate. I have yet to experience a 4K monitor for an extended period of time, but if my recent experience of setting up Cemu on my brother's 27" 16:9 1440p monitor is any indication ... Yeah, there's no going back from ultrawide from me. I was literally 'wtf is this shit' when we were playing around with BotW, such was the feeling of total and utter downgrade. Some of it had to do with 100hz g-sync on mine vs. 60hz non g-sync on his and the size difference (vertically they're similarly sized monitors, but the added lenght on the left and right makes my X34A seem way bigger overall), but still. The immersion factor an ultrawide provides simply can't be matched.

Would I still be saying this if I was comparing it to a 32" 16:9 4K 144hz g-sync HDR monitor? Maybe, maybe not. And what if I was then comparing the latter to a 38" 21:9 200hz g-sync HDR monitor? It's a specs / sheer size game as much as it is an aspect ratio one, but for my use case (ie. mostly just gaming and browsing) 21:9 is king.
 

Dave_6

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Is now a good time to buy a ultrawide since CES has come and gone? Doesn't look the prices are budging and are the same they were months ago.
 

Lump

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Rocking my Predator X34 happily. I'm still waiting for true Overwatch 21:9 support though. It's kind of crazy it's not there yet.
 

kirin

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^ It not going happen. It been a couple years since Kaplan stated that fov increase would be "unfair" to 16:9 users giving a advantage to ultra-wide users. :lol
 

petran79

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Happy PG348Q owner reporting in. Basically bought the monitor first, then built the PC around it. Cant imagine going back to 16:9. You need VR to get better immersion than playing on a curved ultrawide imo.

I got a GTX 1080 but it was overkill for 1920x1080, while not so well suited for 4K. 3440x1440 is the resolution that makes this card worthwhile.
 

Solaris

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Oct 27, 2017
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Rocking my Predator X34 happily. I'm still waiting for true Overwatch 21:9 support though. It's kind of crazy it's not there yet.

Sadly I don't see it ever happening, Blizzard are set in their archaic ways.

21:9 is amazing and is one of, if not the best, gaming related purchase I ever made.
 

Nali

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Sadly I don't see it ever happening, Blizzard are set in their archaic ways.

21:9 is amazing and is one of, if not the best, gaming related purchase I ever made.
Their individual teams aren't even on the same page. WoW's always supported it, D3's support is formally considered a bug but has never been patched out, and HotS's support was straight up patched in. It's only SC2 and Overwatch where they've got their heads in the sand.
 

Fahzzy

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That Prey pistol viewmodel and angle triggers me really bad. It clearly wouldn't hit where the crosshair is unless something was directly in front of the barrel.

But yes, we're here.
 

Yari

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Was looking into the AW3418DW but then I found out about the LG 34GK950G.The latter probably won't be available in my region for a little longer, just wondering if it is worth waiting for. It seems to have NANO IPS screens. Apparently better colors? I'm not too sure what that really means. I really enjoyed my 34UM95 monitor but I'd love to have a 100hz+ screen for once.
 

kanuuna

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Was looking into the AW3418DW but then I found out about the LG 34GK950G.The latter probably won't be available in my region for a little longer, just wondering if it is worth waiting for. It seems to have NANO IPS screens. Apparently better colors? I'm not too sure what that really means. I really enjoyed my 34UM95 monitor but I'd love to have a 100hz+ screen for once.
I imagine that's more or less the same monitor as the Alienware and the new Acer X34P, both of which feature similar specs (Native 100hz, 120hz OC from OSD, GSYNC) and use a LG manufactured panel. I'd imagine the curvature is the same, too. If not, then it's probably a different product altogether - better colors sound enticing, but 'Nano IPS' isn't very descriptive I'd wait for reviews on that one.
 

kirin

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Nano IPS is just LG marketing term for their method of controlled spectral output on led backlighting similar to Quantam Dot film used on Samsung displays.

Probably will get the LG 34GK950G as well even though I already have a Acer Z301c for gaming.
 

Z-oo31

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What's weird in my situation is that I own a 2560x1440 monitor, but I use the custom resolution 2560x1080 for gaming, with black horizontal bars on the top and bottom.
 

Kimura

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I cannot go back to 16:9. The productivity benefits are to great, but I also like it in gaming. I've had no issue in games besides Black Desert with supporting 21:9.