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Tebunker

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,844
They prefer it because it provides OPTIONS. Stop ignoring what I posted. You have no grounds for ignoring what the majority of public has repeatedly said in dozens of polls at this point.
The only real argument against that though is that many many times, the consumer has no idea they wanted something or preferred something until they had it.

The whole Ford quote, if I asked customer's what they wanted they'd said a faster horse.

The problem now is that most people cannot envision what a single payer or M4A system would look like for them.

There will need tk be a lot of work to lay that foundation, not trying is silly.

Do I think it should be a major campaign point? In a primary yeah, in the general it will take a back seat.
 
Dec 12, 2017
4,652
find me one poll where american voters put IP theft in the top 100 issues

anyone whose job it is to care about it sucks



no one cares. american companies having the right to something does actually nothing for the well being of anyone that doesnt have stocks. theyve fucked over everyone for decades



our culture sucks ass
IP theft isn't an issue in its own.. It's a part of the problem of the economic power struggle with China. You're acting like there was an entire question about IP theft when the candidates just mentioned it as one of the causes of trade tensions.
 

Dream Machine

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,085
His lawn would be in vermont. Is he holding rallies there? Kind of a small state for that, but it's his time.
When people say "the stage is yours", it actually means it's legally yours for the duration of your speech, so he technically owns every lawn where he speaks. Not a lot of people know about that law, but it's true
 
Dec 12, 2017
4,652
The only real argument against that though is that many many times, the consumer has no idea they wanted something or preferred something until they had it.

The whole Ford quote, if I asked customer's what they wanted they'd said a faster horse.

The problem now is that most people cannot envision what a single payer or M4A system would look like for them.

There will need tk be a lot of work to lay that foundation, not trying is silly.

Do I think it should be a major campaign point? In a primary yeah, in the general it will take a back seat.
There is no nation that offers universal healthcare without the availability of private healthcare though. Why is that?
 

spootime

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
3,432
Can you give me 1 example of this happening?

Nortel is just one example amongst dozens. Cree LED technology being stolen wholesale is another. Most Huawei smartphone tech is yet another.


oh no are our jobs being exported to china?

and that's somehow china's fault and not that of american capital?

Yes, state sponsored espionage and IP theft is detrimental to American corporations. What are you even trying to say
 

Polioliolio

Member
Nov 6, 2017
5,398
Bernie may be the most sincere, passionate person there. Everyone else, while still good, all have a bit of a front, playing a little bit of a role. Bernie is an open book.
 

lacer

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,693
Sure, because workers are cool with their work being stolen, and taking food out their kids' mouths

yes these poor engineers children will starve to death because of IP theft, as long as you totally ignore that the implication of having a product people desire to reverse-engineer is that said product is already successful to begin with
 

papermoon

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
1,907
its almost funny watching liberals three years into a trump presidency nodding their head through the tears pretending hillary wasnt a fucking dogshit candidate at every turn

Whatever Clinton was, you conflating her with Warren is off base. Warren can spin a yarn, clap back, and make words sing. She would decimate Trump in a debate. She's laser-sharp and she can brawl.
 

Zombegoast

Member
Oct 30, 2017
14,239
really? comparing socialism?

At least they have free healthcare but we can do better by not have a dictator.