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Luminish

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??? The Barr letter isnt trustworthy.
It's not, but the quotes related to russia collusion specifically seem incredibly hard to take that far out of context, and Mueller's lack of indictments for anything directly related to russia collusion with any americans seems telling.

Remember, people were talking like this before the letter ever came out. The piecemeal evidence being hyped up instantly looks a lot weaker knowing it doesn't lead very far. Trump still looks very guilty about a lot of things, but probably not russia.

But whatever, maybe the full report will prove me wrong. I'd just hope there's enough doubt now that people would at least be more skeptical of the already shoddy connection people were trying to make with the left with investigation that already couldn't seem to pin down anything strong on the alleged prime perpetrators on those lines.
 

xbhaskarx

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User Banned (2 Weeks): Repeatedly posting misleading information, antagonizing other members, and previous infractions


Bernouts what do you think of these statements?
 

daschysta

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Bernouts what do you think of these statements?

Deceptively edited. He said he was against a one state solution AKA annexation of the West bank. He also voted against the anti BDS bill. Seriously, be better please, and do some digging before posting this type of crap. The quotations are NOT the questions he was asked.
 

Frozenprince

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Bernouts what do you think of these statements?

Are you five years old?

Bernie Sanders also voted against the anti-BDS bill and this is a clip of an interview in which the substance of what's asked and the framing of the tweet are not even remotely similar. Like the first clip is literally cut to just end with him BEGINNING his statement and answer to the question. How asinine.
 

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Oh lmao

Not surprising at all then coming from that poster.
 

Prodigal Son

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dont you love it when the question written in the tweet is noticeably different than the one actually asked
its not even noticeably different, its unrecognizable. these tweets are coming from a pretty stupid and dishonest person.

Holy shit


Surprised this is just coming out. I thought he was actually halfway decent on this despite still being an american politician

Nope. That's not doctored or anything?
what are you talking about? she asked him if he supports a 1 state solution and he said no. How is that shocking to hear him say? The question "Do you believe Palestinians should get equal rights" was never uttered in the clip or the full interview ever
 

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I'm gonna post a tweet in which Beto recites a spell to awaken Mustakrakish by clipping together out of context words...


New lore unlocked: Beto is Skwisgaar Skwigelf (taller than a tree)
 

samoyed

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This is a 1948 borders exponent. I'm not strictly opposed to 1948 borders but I can see global capitalism collapsing before Israel's borders being rolled back voluntarily.



This is the kind of radical that makes "radicals" on this board look like babies.

It is interesting to see the length people will go to to tarnish Bernie. What's next, reposting propaganda from the PRC if it's anti-Bernie?
 

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It is interesting to see the length people will go to to tarnish Bernie. What's next, reposting propaganda from the PRC if it's anti-Bernie?

I fully expect someone to come in and say that Bernie is BEB! but won't know what that means.
Breaking news: Beto is totally into Gmilfs
Now that I'm thinking about it, Bet as Skwisgaar is really on point. Give him an accent and add some useless consonants to his speeches and we've got the greatest guitarist known to man

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We need to put a blond wig on Beto
 

Ichthyosaurus

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I'm sorry but this is a "we should make society better!! 'And yet you participate in society'" ass argument.

It's hogwash. His wealth is sure to suffer under his policy proposals. That's commendable, not condemnable.

The notion that you need to be a completely poor dirtbag to be in favor of more just and comprehensive social spending is absurd.

Besides, there is a difference between a millionaire and a billionaire who exploits the labor of many people to fatten their pockets.

The multiple house thing is such a trash right wing talking point, it's gross that anyone is falling for it.

Do you know what each of those house's values are?

Do you know how they were acquired? Like the fact that the "controversial" summer home which was actually purchased through the selling of his wife's inherited property in a different state.

Circumstance and exploitation are not the same.

Then I suggest you inform your fellow socialist brethren who are holding politicians and the wealthy to those standards while letting Bernie slip through that they're hypocrites. If you're not in this group, great, you're not who I was addressing. You're giving this far more thought then they have been in these forums.

That's fair on the house issue.
 

KidAAlbum

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Then I suggest you inform your fellow socialist brethren who are holding politicians and the wealthy to those standards while letting Bernie slip through that they're hypocrites. If you're not in this group, great, you're not who I was addressing. You're giving this far more thought then they have been in these forums.

That's fair on the house issue.
What's the context for that? I've seen people talk about how Billionaires shouldn't exist. Don't think I've seen that with millionaires. Maybe those that have like 100 million or something. I've also heard of those attacking millionaires if they're acting in the interest of corporations.

I've only heard of Bernie haters coming up with this attack where how much you make is the only factor to consider.
 

Tracygill

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Greg Sargent
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Interesting new memo from @DataProgress, making an extensive case AGAINST Joe Biden's electability.

They tested numerous of his positions and found he loses support perilously among multiple key voter groups, potentially allowing Trump to beat him:

https://filesforprogress.org/misc/is-biden-electable.pdf

Biden is going to have a difficult time explaining his past. Will he be willing to do it? Will he be able to do it?
 
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chadskin

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Why are we posting tweets from @Partisangirl?

Maram Susli (Arabic: مرام سوسلي), also known as Mimi al-Laham, PartisanGirl, Syrian Girl and Syrian Sister, is a Syrian Australian YouTuber and commentator who does videos on the Syrian Civil War, US wars in the Middle East region, conspiracy theories, and the Gamergate controversy. Susli is a contributor to the conspiracy theory and fake news website InfoWars, has appeared on a podcasts hosted by the former head of the Ku Klux Klan David Duke, as well as the Holocaust denier Ryan Dawson. Susli says that 9/11 was an inside job and that the New World Order opposes independent countries, including Syria. She is the tweeter known as @partisangirl on Twitter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maram_Susli
 

Tukarrs

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Are any of the other people running gun owners?
I imagine Buttigieg and Gabbard own guns.

I think people should keep their expectations in check. Guns (or AR) aren't going away any time soon. The best we can hope for is some more comprehensive background checks.
 

Vector

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Kamala's stance on guns is good and I'm saying this as someone who wants to own a gun soon. You can't make guns disappear entirely, or take existing gun owners' guns away (horrible idea for obvious reasons), but you can make sure that people who are clearly not supposed to have guns don't have easy access to them.

She's cancelled for completely different reasons in my book.
 

Ortix

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Are any of the other people running gun owners?
I imagine Buttigieg and Gabbard own guns.

I think people should keep their expectations in check. Guns (or AR) aren't going away any time soon. The best we can hope for is some more comprehensive background checks.


Why is incrementalism suddenly ok when it's about guns?
 

Tukarrs

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Why is incrementalism suddenly ok when it's about guns?

I think it's way more likely to reform healthcare than to take guns away from gun owners.

Because the latter will literally use violence.

E: some things just aren't possible at this time. I would like everyone to eat less meat product too, but if you try to legislate it...
 

Kirblar

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No one wants to take away shotguns/rifles/etc. The idea that people are trying to "ban all guns" is a right wing nonsense talking point.
 

Boiled Goose

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Harris is so disappointing. She's basically an old school right winger in basic ideology. (Today's Republican party is insane far right).
 

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I just realized Pete reminds me of Nathan Fielder in terms of looks
 
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In all seriousness, can I get a link to the full interview? Small clips do not give the full picture as he may have had more commentary for all of his answers that is not shown.
Full video
published May 7, 2017
Israel Palestinian part of the interview between 5:00 - 8:30
He does offer no advice or direction for what the Palestinians can do if not BDS in his answer to the follow up question after saying he doesn't support BDS. 7:04 .
That what almost 2 years ago and he might have something by now.
 
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