If Gillibrand lasts into the debates, she is probably going to go hard on those revelations of sexual harassment by campaign staffers.
This isn't going to happen. If they start attacking Bernie for that stuff the floodgates are open for them to be attacked as well.
Start digging into literally any campaign and you will find a disturbing amount of sexual harassment (like that Harris story). Campaigns are breeding grounds for it, unfortunately.
The problems the people coming forward raised were explicitly not about the presence of harassment, but the lack of ways of handling it institutionally in the campaign. It is an inevitability- the problem was not that it occurred but the campaign's lack of ability to handle that inevitability.
And if you think that problem is unique to Sanders' campaign you would be a fool. Campaigns aren't built structurally to handle sexual harrassment well or any HR issues really. Hopefully this pushes Sanders and all candidates do better.
You are very much wrong on this. It is difficult, yes. It is not impossible, which is why you normally don't have a mass letter like the one Sanders got being sent after a campaign.
It's an exceptionally bad counterpoint because that situation was Hillary overruling her staff on a situation they had been handling correctly due to institutional procedures and controls being put in place!
You are completely out of your depth here.
I am not. This letter is not something I can recall ever having seen before. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/30/bernie-sanders-campaign-harassment-1077014
Wherever men are sexual harrassment will be present. This is faux outrage to single Bernie out, especially since he heard them out and improved things with his campaign last year. You never seen this before because American society didn't give a damn about sexual harrassment for most of its history.
The way you're framing this is disgusting and you should honestly be ashamed of yourself. Sexual harrassment isn't part of your horse race. I'm done with you.
What that letter shows is these women were brave enough to speak up and tell their stories which they should very much be celebrated for.
I said the literal opposite of that just a few posts above you
This letter came from his own staff signed by peoples from all levels of the campaign.
And yet we read one here, signed by people throughout all levels of the campaign. No one is claiming that sexual harassment isn't a problem on campaigns- quite the opposite, they're acknowledging its an inevitability in any workplace made worse by campaigning's temporary nature. Which is why a campaign needs procedures in place to address them. And yes, you are unlikely to hear from 99.9% of them (which is why the '08 campaign staffer waited till after the '16 election to come forward) which is what makes the staff letter even more extraordinary in the breadth of people coming forward. That '08 campaign had institutional controls in place that would have properly dealt with the situation had Clinton not intervened.
"It's not just about" still means it's still about the 2016 and 2020 campaigns as well! Which is why they had a sit down meeting with him!
I'm not saying his staff is out to get him. I'm well aware of this story. Some posters here are predictably out to get Bernie is what I'm saying. Staff brings problem, problem got addressed, everyone involved agrees to tighten the Bernie campaign ship. It's disengenuous to single out Bernie, when sexual harrassment happens in nearly every single public space where men interact with women.
Bernie is not being blamed for the presence of harassment on the campaign. It's a disingenous straw man being attacked that no one is actually arguing. If you disagree, please quote someone making that argument. Bernie is also not being singled out for having management problems. Amy Klobuchar is having a very, very bad day.
Dude, you really don't get what we're saying here. Bad management by the candidate is not responsible for sexual harassment on campaigns and conflating that with Klobuchar's very direct and indefensible treatment of her staff doesn't make any sense.
No, I get that you keep insisting that people are blaming Bernie for the presence of sexual harassment on his campaign after they're explicitly clear that they're not. He's responsible for having institutional support to try and deal with the issues when they inevitably occur, or the lack thereof. Not their inevitable presence.
The only reason the usual suspects are bringing this up is because it's Bernie. Notice how they were all quiet as ghosts when that Kamala story came out.
Amorality is a perfectly viable trait to have in some peoples minds.
Just take the L and try not to use victims of sexual harassment as a political prop in the future. I don't even understand how you can twist what I said into me suggesting that sexual harassment should be normalized and accepted. I strongly believe the exact opposite.
Oh and I should have caught this before. I never said that I personally witnessed sexual harrassment on every campaign I worked on. Go and re read my post. Yet more proof that you're not interesting in having a good faith debate about this.
Sure bringing them down with those unpopular and unworthy ideas like a living wage, M4A, Free College and helping trans people ;)
