2020-21 Season TV Cancellations/Pilots: Everything's Not Gonna Be Okay for Punky, Betty, Dickinson, or Sarah

Aiii · Nov 3, 2020

Bus-TEE said:
It isn't a question of Netflix being doomed even with the increased competition, I think it's better framed as 'will Netflix become the Chrome of streaming or the Yahoo?'.

Yes, mostly this. If Netflix "fails" it will be because someone bigger buys them out. Which in turn will only really happen, seems to me, if they stagnate on subscribers counts and don't bring down their spending to pay off their loans. Last I read they had about 2 to 1 loans to equity, but since most of that is invested in shows they then promptly cancel after a season, it seems they can bring down their spending quite easily to match a drop in (projected) growth.

It'll be a while before sub numbers are where they are supposed to be given the covid-19 bump happened, though.

Either way, Netflix is fine, but nowhere near "too big to fail" as they continue to get more competition around the world and continue to increase prices well above said competition. Hulu going worldwide especially should have them a bit worried, at least.

G_Shumi · Nov 3, 2020

Monday night's ratings. Lots of reruns:

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/the-sked-monday-network-scorecard-11-2-2020.html

Hobbun · Nov 3, 2020

G_Shumi said:
Monday night's ratings. Lots of reruns:

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/the-sked-monday-network-scorecard-11-2-2020.html

The Good Doctor 3rd season opened up to a .6.

Anyone remember what last year's average rating was? I thought it was higher than that.

Fuzzy · Nov 3, 2020

Hobbun said:
The Good Doctor 3rd season opened up to a .6.

Anyone remember what last year's average rating was? I thought it was higher than that.

That was the 4th season premiere, not the 3rd. The S3 average was 0.86.

The Good Doctor: Season Three Ratings

Last year, despite some steep declines in the ratings, The Good Doctor was ABC's second-highest rated dramatic series (behind Grey's Anatomy) of the

tvseriesfinale.com

vypek · Nov 3, 2020

Ouch. L.A.'s Finest and Filthy Rich are not in a good way from the looks of it.

Aiii · Nov 3, 2020

The Good Doctor is one of those shows that you just stop watching. No real reason, just one week you kinda don't feel like watching or forget to watch and then you just never pick it up again.

Hobbun · Nov 3, 2020

Fuzzy said:
That was the 4th season premiere, not the 3rd. The S3 average was 0.86.

The Good Doctor: Season Three Ratings

Last year, despite some steep declines in the ratings, The Good Doctor was ABC's second-highest rated dramatic series (behind Grey's Anatomy) of the

tvseriesfinale.com

Oh, I mean S4 premiere.

Ok, that's what I thought on it declining. Not sure if that has to do with COVID or just normal decline, but seems a bit steep for the second option. Hope it doesn't continue as would hate to see the show be canceled this year.

vypek said:
Ouch. L.A.'s Finest and Filthy Rich are not in a good way from the looks of it.

Filthy Rich has already been canceled.

Aiii said:
The Good Doctor is one of those shows that you just stop watching. No real reason, just one week you kinda don't feel like watching or forget to watch and then you just never pick it up again.

Not for me, I enjoy the show and have watched every week.

vypek · Nov 3, 2020

Hobbun said:
Filthy Rich has already been canceled.

Oh thats right. It got canned the same day as Next.

CrichtonKicks · Nov 3, 2020

Wasn't LA's Finest canceled as well?

Zoe · Nov 3, 2020

CrichtonKicks said:
Wasn't LA's Finest canceled as well?

It's been cancelled by Spectrum, but who knows what Fox is going to do with the second season.

Zero315 · Nov 3, 2020

Aiii said:
The Good Doctor is one of those shows that you just stop watching. No real reason, just one week you kinda don't feel like watching or forget to watch and then you just never pick it up again.

That's pretty much what happened to me.

Deleted member 45614 · Nov 3, 2020

Buried under all the election news.

Corum Jhaelen Irsei · Nov 3, 2020

Jamiem said:
Buried under all the election news.

Cancelled Rock

dead souls · Nov 3, 2020

Jamiem said:
Buried under all the election news.

Expected but I'll miss it.

Zero315 · Nov 3, 2020

Jamiem said:
Buried under all the election news.

Castle Rock Crumbles

Squid Bunny · Nov 3, 2020

Curler said:
I hate it when those higher ups think they know what people want. Sure, some want trash TV, some want popcorn shows, but some DO want these 'prestige' shows that "we haven't heard about!" Honestly, I'm surprised they've invested so much into anime with that anime (and really, many anime viewers are pissed that not all countries get simul-sub releases, but others do...)

I think you misunderstood. It's about making sure shows that have a global impact; Netflix execs have said again and again that big international shows like Money Heist and Dark are the real jewels of Netflix's collection, instead of small prestige award-bait dramas like Ozark.

I also like them, of course, but a big corporation thinking about the international market instead of just American interests is pretty huge.

Curler · Nov 3, 2020

Squid Bunny said:
I think you misunderstood. It's about making sure shows that have a global impact; Netflix execs have said again and again that big international shows like Money Heist and Dark are the real jewels of Netflix's collection, instead of small prestige award-bait dramas like Ozark.

I also like them, of course, but a big corporation thinking about the international market instead of just American interests is pretty huge.

Ah, yeah I totally viewed it in a different angle there.

A balance of both, in that case, is nice. International shows have been nice to see, and those with appeal to more than just NA. But (although I haven't watched it yet but it's on the list), it's nice to see stuff like Ozark get done as well.

Squid Bunny · Nov 3, 2020

Curler said:
Ah, yeah I totally viewed it in a different angle there.

A balance of both, in that case, is nice. International shows have been nice to see, and those with appeal to more than just NA. But (although I haven't watched it yet but it's on the list), it's nice to see stuff like Ozark get done as well.

Yeah, I do think it's great if Netflix becomes the place for "shows no one else picks up". But they're too big for that now. =/

Rhaknar · Nov 4, 2020

y'all, Queen's Gambit is great.

dead souls · Nov 4, 2020

Rhaknar said:
y'all, Queen's Gambit is great.

I literally just finished it and could not agree more. Simply stunning.

Peek-a-boo! · Nov 4, 2020

Rhaknar said:
Y'all, Queen's Gambit is great.

Without spoiling anything, what is it actually about?

All I know is that one of the two actresses from the movie 'Thoroughbreds' is the leading character.

Quite fancy watching something in-between waiting for the next episode of 'The Mandalorian' ... 😊

Spectromixer · Nov 4, 2020

Jamiem said:
Buried under all the election news.

We figured as much when the HBO Max Overlook Hotel/'The Shining' series was announced

Conditional-Pancakes · Nov 4, 2020

Rhaknar said:
y'all, Queen's Gambit is great.

It's amazing!

Rhaknar · Nov 4, 2020

Peek-a-boo! said:
Without spoiling anything, what is it actually about?

All I know is that one of the two actresses from the movie 'Thoroughbreds' is the leading character.

Quite fancy watching something in-between waiting for the next episode of 'The Mandalorian' ... 😊

it's about a chess prodigy, and how her chase to be the best leads to some dark paths (as it usualy does with geniuses, if you know what I mean). Taylor-Joy is fantastic in it, but the whole thing is very compelling and well written.

G_Shumi · Nov 4, 2020

Tuesday night's ratings. I can't imagine what was on last night:

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/the-sked-tuesday-network-scorecard-11-3-2020.html

Deleted member 45614 · Nov 4, 2020

Spectromixer said:
We figured as much when the HBO Max Overlook Hotel/'The Shining' series was announced

Hopefully not a sign that Animaniacs about to be done dirty.

But with Warner having their own streamer now makes to bring things in house for the most part.

Deleted member 864 · Nov 4, 2020

Rhaknar said:
y'all, Queen's Gambit is great.

I've heard a lot of praise for it, and some of my family watched it too and really enjoyed it. I know I'll check it out eventually.

Fuzzy · Nov 4, 2020

NKnight7 said:
I've heard a lot of praise for it, and some of my family watched it too and really enjoyed it. I know I'll check it out eventually.

It's only 7 episodes so it's not very long.

Deleted member 864 · Nov 4, 2020

Fuzzy said:
It's only 7 episodes so it's not very long.

I know, I'm just busy right now and it's hard to sit down and watch a show.

RatskyWatsky · Nov 4, 2020

Rhaknar said:
y'all, Queen's Gambit is great.

Ya

Rhaknar · Nov 4, 2020

RatskyWatsky said:
Ya

I was wondering if you watched it, I didnt see a peep from you about it :(

RatskyWatsky · Nov 4, 2020

Rhaknar said:
I was wondering if you watched it, I didnt see a peep from you about it :(

Peep

Curler · Nov 4, 2020

I sure hope Primal gets a renewal. Such a unique series, and the way it ended, makes it look like another season is planned. I like how they only have each section/season with a short 5 eps. The time is well-filled.

TheNatureBoy · Nov 5, 2020

Curler said:
I sure hope Primal gets a renewal. Such a unique series, and the way it ended, makes it look like another season is planned. I like how they only have each section/season with a short 5 eps. The time is well-filled.

It's been renewed already for Season 2, thankfully.

TheNatureBoy · Nov 5, 2020

‘Interrogation’ Canceled at CBS All Access (Exclusive)

'Interrogation' Canceled at CBS All Access (Exclusive)

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Curler · Nov 5, 2020

TheNatureBoy said:
It's been renewed already for Season 2, thankfully.

Nice! I see, both parts technically were a "season". Those always throw me off.

Rhaknar · Nov 5, 2020

Queen's Gambit is probably my show of the year for Ratsky's thread next month, granted I didnt watch many new shows this year (havent watched Raised by Wolves for example).

In fact looking at my 52 thread list, I'm struggling to find 10 seasons from this year in there >_>

Queen's Gambit
Umbrella Academy S2
The Boys S2
Castlevania S3
What we do in the Shadows S2
Lucifer Season 5
Bly Manor

...err...Locke and Key I guess? Was Sabrina Part 3 this year? and those would just be there by default to make 10, not like I loved them :/

G_Shumi · Nov 5, 2020

Wednesday night's ratings. CBS only aired "The Amazing Race" for one hour (at 8pm ET). The 9pm hour was more Election coverage:

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/the-sked-wednesday-network-scorecard-11-4-2020.html

Zoe · Nov 5, 2020

G_Shumi said:
Wednesday night's ratings. CBS only aired "The Amazing Race" for one hour (at 8pm ET). The 9pm hour was more Election coverage:

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/the-sked-wednesday-network-scorecard-11-4-2020.html

At first I thought it was just my work filter blocking these images, but it looks like the domain is blocking external referrers now:

Rhaknar · Nov 5, 2020

for the record I also don't see those ratings pictures /shrug

Zero315 · Nov 5, 2020

Shows up fine for me

Jason Frost · Nov 5, 2020

Rhaknar said:
for the record I also don't see those ratings pictures /shrug

Yup, me too.

Natiko · Nov 5, 2020

It continues to work fine for me in Safari.

vypek · Nov 5, 2020

Yeah, something seems to be wonky with ShowBuzzDaily. Doesn't seem to always be consistent for many of us. Still appreciate the post though because usually my work PC or phone can see the posts

G_Shumi · Nov 5, 2020

Zoe said:
At first I thought it was just my work filter blocking these images, but it looks like the domain is blocking external referrers now:

Yeah, it sucks that some people can't see the image, but the links I provide take you directly to the same image, so you should still see it on Showbuzzdaily's website (hopefully).

shacklesmcgee · Nov 5, 2020

I fixed the image problem in Chrome by clicking the "Secure/Not Secure" button beside the URL -> Site Settings -> changed "Insecure Content" to "Allow"

I got so frustrated the other week I made an Era thread and some helpful posters showed me that.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-chrome-broken-for-anyone-else.313369/post-49491337

Tagg · Nov 5, 2020

shacklesmcgee said:
I fixed the image problem in Chrome by clicking the "Secure/Not Secure" button beside the URL -> Site Settings -> changed "Insecure Content" to "Allow"

I got so frustrated the other week I made an Era thread and some helpful posters showed me that.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-chrome-broken-for-anyone-else.313369/post-49491337

Yoooo, give this member a high five! Fixed ti for me as well.

shacklesmcgee · Nov 5, 2020

Tagg said:
Yoooo, give this member a high five! Fixed ti for me as well.

Yeah really, give them all the internet points. It's one thing to not be able to see TV viewership numbers, but it was starting to affect tutorials and things I need for work. And I googled around for hours before making the thread, there's no articles or anything out there

Deleted member 864 · Nov 5, 2020

shacklesmcgee said:
I fixed the image problem in Chrome by clicking the "Secure/Not Secure" button beside the URL -> Site Settings -> changed "Insecure Content" to "Allow"

I got so frustrated the other week I made an Era thread and some helpful posters showed me that.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-chrome-broken-for-anyone-else.313369/post-49491337

Did the same thing and it worked for me. The images are showing up just fine now.

G_Shumi · Nov 5, 2020

shacklesmcgee said:
I fixed the image problem in Chrome by clicking the "Secure/Not Secure" button beside the URL -> Site Settings -> changed "Insecure Content" to "Allow"

I got so frustrated the other week I made an Era thread and some helpful posters showed me that.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-chrome-broken-for-anyone-else.313369/post-49491337

Awesome! Thank you so much for posting this!

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