The fact that I'm still discussing season 2 with my sister vs watching season 1 in a weekend and completely forgetting what happened, I have no doubt about what is the best release format.
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2020-21 Season TV Cancellations/Pilots: Everything's Not Gonna Be Okay for Punky, Betty, Dickinson, or Sarah
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Yep.
Take note streamers--release your shows the correct way and reap the rewards.
I think that will be a serious talking point in any future streaming show's production. Some shows benefit from each approach.
Same. I - hate - the feeling of having an instant backlog when they drop entire seasons at once.
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I think typical "nerd" shows are the likeliest to get the treatment. I would be very surprised if the Lord of the Rings show wasn't weekly, for instance.
Financially, the weekly approach definitely benefits subscription-based services I think. Having a popular show stretched over 8-10 weeks prevents some people to subscribe just for the month the show is dropped to then immediately unsubscribe.
But the same argument could be made that it doesn't really benefit customers because it will end up being more expensive for people. Especially if multiple streaming platforms adopt the same kind of release schedule.
But the same argument could be made that it doesn't really benefit customers because it will end up being more expensive for people. Especially if multiple streaming platforms adopt the same kind of release schedule.
I think it probably depends on how big the show is. Bigger shows like Witcher, Mando, LoTR etc should be weekly. Smaller shows that are more niche are probably better as binge to get people to stick around with the service I'm thinking non event documentaries, some comedies, kids animation etc.
I think dumps are the way to go. Watch a few at a time at your own pace.
Weekly episodes only work if the show is actually really good and engaging. They are greatly benefiting right now from quarantine because people are THIRSTY for something to do every week.
Weekly episodes only work if the show is actually really good and engaging. They are greatly benefiting right now from quarantine because people are THIRSTY for something to do every week.
Yes and yes. I will make a point to keep up with anything remotely interesting that releases weekly, but when entire seasons get dropped I often just think, "Eh, I'll watch it sometime" and "sometime" becomes "never" if you look at my Netflix backlog.
Agreed. Netflix found success in part because of the binge model. It's not wrong. I think you're right that it's even usually better.
Now here's spin-off series I don't think anyone expected:
deadline.com
Hopefully this encourages them to put The Knick on HBO Max finally.
Steven Soderbergh Says ‘The Knick’ Followup Is In The Works From André Holland & Barry Jenkins
Steven Soderbergh has revealed a sequel to The Knick is in the works centered on André Holland’s Dr. Algernon C. Edwards character. The original series ended after two seasons on Cinemax in 2015, but was not officially canceled until two years later, in 2017. There had long been speculation...
deadline.com
Hopefully this encourages them to put The Knick on HBO Max finally.
It would be wonderful if Max or Netflix picks it up, especially considering how fond they are of Soderbergh (e.g. Let Them All Talk, Mosaic)
‘The Boys’ Spinoff in Development at Amazon Following Massive Season 2 Launch
Variety has learned that Amazon is fast-tracking development on a spinoff of "The Boys"variety.com
That's actually a spinoff that has potential and is different enough from the main series to stand out.
This is the worst idea for a remake ever.
variety.com
‘Rashomon’ Series From Amblin Television in Development at HBO Max
Amblin Television's TV series based on “Rashomon" has landed at HBO Max for development.
variety.com
Now here's spin-off series I don't think anyone expected:
Steven Soderbergh Says ‘The Knick’ Followup Is In The Works From André Holland & Barry Jenkins
Steven Soderbergh has revealed a sequel to The Knick is in the works centered on André Holland’s Dr. Algernon C. Edwards character. The original series ended after two seasons on Cinemax in 2015, but was not officially canceled until two years later, in 2017. There had long been speculation...
Hopefully this encourages them to put The Knick on HBO Max finally.
A big part of the show's original appeal was Soderbergh directing all the episodes. Maybe one of the first times I really paid attention to what a director can bring to a show, but I would be curious to see the new approach with maybe Barry Jenkins directing some.
The Knick was the show that made me a fan of Andre Holland.
Did you watch the Charity reunion episode they did a couple months back on YouTube? It was really funny, with the characters clicking right into place.
Yes, pretty funny and I want more. Still the cast are gifted with physical comedy that these read-table missing.
I'm not sure I see the problem of a weekly release schedule weeding out some of the unfulfilling shows that can appear successful after being binged and forgotten in a single weekend...
The best thing about weekly releases is that people complain and say "this format sucks, how can you keep me waiting, go back to dropping them all at once because I want it now" and it's like your angry anticipation proves them right. You wouldn't be thinking about the show every week if you binged it all in two days.
I wouldn't rule out Soderbergh retuning to direct at least some of it. Either way, Jenkins is a great director too. And there was definitely more that was great about The Knick apart from just Soderbergh's direction. It's a very unique show and there hasn't been anything else quite like it, or covering the same time period and topic.
Any sort of continuation is something I anticipate, personally. And I also feel that even if the HBO Max executives didn't (or still don't for some reason) think that Cinemax's action fare fits the ""HBO Max brand", that definitely is not, and never was, true of The Knick; which always leaned more toward the vein of your typical HBO prestige drama anyways. It was always out of place on Cinemax, basically.
Yup, even massive stuff like Stranger Things isn't discussed at all beyond a week or 2 at the absolute most.
Only reason something like Tiger King held out so long was because it was at the start of lockdowns and it was so niche yet viral so it stayed around as more and more discovered this weird little documentary.
Now here's spin-off series I don't think anyone expected:
Steven Soderbergh Says ‘The Knick’ Followup Is In The Works From André Holland & Barry Jenkins
Steven Soderbergh has revealed a sequel to The Knick is in the works centered on André Holland’s Dr. Algernon C. Edwards character. The original series ended after two seasons on Cinemax in 2015, but was not officially canceled until two years later, in 2017. There had long been speculation...
Hopefully this encourages them to put The Knick on HBO Max finally.
Nice to have you back!
Yeah, it had some really great performances. Clive Owen was great as Cocaine Thack (my nickname for him). If the show was on HBO back in the day, it would have gotten more attention, but Cinemax allowed the show to get on the air in the 1st place with HBO's slow pipeline.
Thanks! I copped a three month ban over on gaming side, but I realize it was my own stupidity -- and I was wrong. I'm a bit of an old dog, and it's hard for me to get with the times sometimes, but that's no excuse. Happy to be back to participate in the forum.
The plan was always to continue the show without Clive if they got a season three anyway. So however they market this continuation/spin-off it kind of just fits the original vision.
They totally nailed Amazon, YouTube, and Hulu
:)
‘Lucifer’ Tops Nielsen Streaming Rankings While ‘Cobra Kai’ Punches Up To No. 2 In Netflix Debut
Netflix's Lucifer retained its top spot in Nielsen's streaming rankings from August 24-30. Cobra Kai was No. 2 in first week.
deadline.com
Not a full picture of streaming (only TV viewing, no international), but good to see Cobra Kai make a strong debut. Will be interesting to see if The Boys is able to crack the list when they catch up to the calendar and break the dominance by Netflix.
People still watching The Office on Netflix is like GTA V always showing up in the NPD Gaming charts, and I loved that show. But still..
‘Lucifer’ Tops Nielsen Streaming Rankings While ‘Cobra Kai’ Punches Up To No. 2 In Netflix Debut
Netflix's Lucifer retained its top spot in Nielsen's streaming rankings from August 24-30. Cobra Kai was No. 2 in first week.
Not a full picture of streaming (only TV viewing, no international), but good to see Cobra Kai make a strong debut. Will be interesting to see if The Boys is able to crack the list when they catch up to the calendar and break the dominance by Netflix.
People still watching The Office on Netflix is like GTA V always showing up in the NPD Gaming charts, and I loved that show. But still..
Interesting, none of Netflix productions even come close to the longevity of The Office or Grey's Anatomy, NCIS .... Next years will be the time Disney, Universal, CBS, HBO ... pull out all of their stuffs right?
But I dont think Netflix will change their way they just produce buck lot of new shows every years and never commit any farther than 3 seasons with few exceptions.
I like to imagine it as people liking background noise they can look over at every once in a while and get a laugh.
This is the worst idea for a remake ever.
‘Rashomon’ Series From Amblin Television in Development at HBO Max
Amblin Television's TV series based on “Rashomon" has landed at HBO Max for development.
Oh man, that's got some great potential though. You could have a "Previously On..." trail at the beginning with loads of stuff that didn't happen in the previous episode.
Now here's spin-off series I don't think anyone expected:
Steven Soderbergh Says ‘The Knick’ Followup Is In The Works From André Holland & Barry Jenkins
Steven Soderbergh has revealed a sequel to The Knick is in the works centered on André Holland’s Dr. Algernon C. Edwards character. The original series ended after two seasons on Cinemax in 2015, but was not officially canceled until two years later, in 2017. There had long been speculation...
Hopefully this encourages them to put The Knick on HBO Max finally.
This reminds me of a huge pet peeve I have: nearly every TV show tries a Rashmon-esque episode and 99% of the time they are incredibly pointless.This is the worst idea for a remake ever.
‘Rashomon’ Series From Amblin Television in Development at HBO Max
Amblin Television's TV series based on “Rashomon" has landed at HBO Max for development.
Its true, the Rashomon structure has been used dozens of times. Is there any desire to see the basic story re-done, just not as well?
*40 (yes, forty)* new movies, only one with an LGBT story in it
I mean, it's a better track record than Disney but still, holy fuck
I cant believe I subbed to Disney+ over a year ago now and they have yet to release a single good new tv show since Mando during all that time.
They must be glad they're too big to fail because jeez.