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2020-21 Season TV Cancellations/Pilots: Everything's Not Gonna Be Okay for Punky, Betty, Dickinson, or Sarah

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firehawk12

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Got down a wiki hole and remembered the CW adaptation of Frequency and how for that one year, they let every show they cancelled film a special ending scene just to provide closure to their stories. And then of course, I don't think they ever did that again.

TV is such a weird thing sometimes. lol
 
RatskyWatsky

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firehawk12 said:
Got down a wiki hole and remembered the CW adaptation of Frequency and how for that one year, they let every show they cancelled film a special ending scene just to provide closure to their stories. And then of course, I don't think they ever did that again.

TV is such a weird thing sometimes. lol
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I completely forgot about that lol
 
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firehawk12 said:
Got down a wiki hole and remembered the CW adaptation of Frequency and how for that one year, they let every show they cancelled film a special ending scene just to provide closure to their stories. And then of course, I don't think they ever did that again.

TV is such a weird thing sometimes. lol
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I wish that mentality stuck around, doubly so in our current streaming age. When something stays eternally on your service having it be 'complete' has to be better than the alternative.

I would be really interested in the numbers for streaming original shows that were left 'unfinished'. For instance, in 2021 how many people watched Netlix's Marco Polo or that 90s set teen show that got cancelled after a single season.
 
Joni

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firehawk12 said:
Got down a wiki hole and remembered the CW adaptation of Frequency and how for that one year, they let every show they cancelled film a special ending scene just to provide closure to their stories. And then of course, I don't think they ever did that again.

TV is such a weird thing sometimes. lol
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Frequency and No Tomorrow really needed it. But since then, they have only cancelled Life Sentence and Katy Keene after one season. Open points for Katy Keene can be handled on Riverdale, so it is really only Life Sentence. Did it need one?
 
Hobbun

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firehawk12 said:
Got down a wiki hole and remembered the CW adaptation of Frequency and how for that one year, they let every show they cancelled film a special ending scene just to provide closure to their stories. And then of course, I don't think they ever did that again.

TV is such a weird thing sometimes. lol
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I really enjoy watching TV programs (and movies), but it is the one thing I hate about the business, where shows too often get cancelled prematurely/without closure. Yeah, I know it's the nature of the business, but it doesn't mean I have to like it and wish they made a better effort to respect our (the viewers) wish to see a proper ending than only seeing the bottom line. Your example of the one season allowing all the shows film the special ending or the times these shows 'get saved' to close it out are most certainly the exception and not the norm.
 
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Wednesday night's ratings from TV Series Finale:

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Ultima_5

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Hobbun said:
I should give this a try. How does this compare to the original? Or is it just not the same without Robert Stack?
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It's not as interesting in my opinion. Some of it feels very manipulative/sadness porn. Plus with every story being an episode you can feel like some of them are stretched. In the original run I️ always enjoyed the ufo/ghost/stupid shit segments but when it's an hour long it's a bit much
 
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Ultima_5 said:
It's not as interesting in my opinion. Some of it feels very manipulative/sadness porn. Plus with every story being an episode you can feel like some of them are stretched. In the original run I️ always enjoyed the ufo/ghost/stupid shit segments but when it's an hour long it's a bit much
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I believe the original was an hour. But if it's something you are not as interested in, I can understand it would feel too long.

I may still give the first season (or at least the first few episodes) a try.

Thanks.
 
Ultima_5

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Hobbun said:
I believe the original was an hour. But if it's something you are not as interested in, I can understand it would feel too long.

I may still give the first season (or at least the first few episodes) a try.

Thanks.
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The original had multiple stories in each episode so each story was 5-10 mins long. The Netflix one are about an hour for one topic and most don't warrant it so far. I️ enjoyed it enough but it's not really the same as the original show
 
Hobbun

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Ultima_5 said:
The original had multiple stories in each episode so each story was 5-10 mins long. The Netflix one are about an hour for one topic and most don't warrant it so far. I️ enjoyed it enough but it's not really the same as the original show
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Oh, the whole hour is dedicated to one story? Yeah, that can be a bit much. I think the original had 3-4 segments an episode, but its been awhile.
 
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Hobbun said:
Oh, the whole hour is dedicated to one story? Yeah, that can be a bit much. I think the original had 3-4 segments an episode, but its been awhile.
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Yeah, so each episode is pretty hit and miss. It's worth checking out but it mostly feels like another cold case show with a random alien episode in there. The first episode is really fascinating of the new one (Rey Rivera I️ believe)
 
PhilosopherDirtBike

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firehawk12 said:
Got down a wiki hole and remembered the CW adaptation of Frequency and how for that one year, they let every show they cancelled film a special ending scene just to provide closure to their stories. And then of course, I don't think they ever did that again.

TV is such a weird thing sometimes. lol
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That's around the time they basically stopped canceling shows tho so it kinda makes sense
 
firehawk12

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RatskyWatsky said:
I completely forgot about that lol
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Yeah, I'm not sure how I clicked around wiki but just ended up on the article for Frequency and then remembered the ending. Funny enough, the epilogue isn't summarized as an official episode on the page for whatever reason.

Joni said:
Frequency and No Tomorrow really needed it. But since then, they have only cancelled Life Sentence and Katy Keene after one season. Open points for Katy Keene can be handled on Riverdale, so it is really only Life Sentence. Did it need one?
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PhilosopherDirtBike said:
That's around the time they basically stopped canceling shows tho so it kinda makes sense
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Hobbun said:
I really enjoy watching TV programs (and movies), but it is the one thing I hate about the business, where shows too often get cancelled prematurely/without closure. Yeah, I know it's the nature of the business, but it doesn't mean I have to like it and wish they made a better effort to respect our (the viewers) wish to see a proper ending than only seeing the bottom line. Your example of the one season allowing all the shows film the special ending or the times these shows 'get saved' to close it out are most certainly the exception and not the norm.
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gforguava said:
I wish that mentality stuck around, doubly so in our current streaming age. When something stays eternally on your service having it be 'complete' has to be better than the alternative.

I would be really interested in the numbers for streaming original shows that were left 'unfinished'. For instance, in 2021 how many people watched Netlix's Marco Polo or that 90s set teen show that got cancelled after a single season.
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Yeah, CW shows have kind of 'ended' naturally since then (maybe in part because they just went all in on the franchise type shows since then) but I was thinking more broadly with how there's so much churn in TV nowadays because if something falls off the algorithm and doesn't get seen, it'll just end.

In the age of building content for the library, you'd think it'd be worth shooting even a 5 minute scene that provides some narrative closure - however shoehorned it might be. If nothing else, it doesn't make it seem like a waste to watch a show that will never get an ending, which only burns people on the content overall because people can't trust if a show will get an ending or not.

Of course in an ideal world every show would be able to end on its own terms, but Netflix has shown that even in an age where traditional TV ratings don't matter, no show is ever really 'safe' from cancellation.

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Secret best Disney show is coming back

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John Stamos’ Big Shot Renewed for Season 2 at Disney+

John Stamos' Big Shot renewed for Season 2 at Disney Plus, returning with new episodes — get details.
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Now bring back Bunheads! lol
 
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www.hollywoodreporter.com

‘Reservation Dogs’ Renewed for Second Season at FX on Hulu

The comedy about Native American teenagers is co-created by Sterlin Harjo and Taika Waititi.
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‘Republic of Sarah’ Canceled After Single Season on The CW

The drama has been among the lesser watched shows in the network's summer lineup.
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Reservation Dogs: Nice.

Republic of Sarah: Yeah... getting a 0.0 on the first season would do that. At least The Outpost, Pandora and Dynasty took multiple seasons to get there.
 
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Naijaboy said:
Reservation Dogs: Nice.

Republic of Sarah: Yeah... getting a 0.0 on the first season would do that. At least The Outpost, Pandora and Dynasty took multiple seasons to get there.
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For Republic of Sarah, the pitch of a small town trying to become an independant country was interesting, the problem is that apparently the writers were more interested of doing a basic romantic drama than exploring how that town would face the problems of it's independance after the third episode. So yeah... Not surprising.
 
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Looking at that Dickinson story, that show must be a lot weirder than I thought if it has like Ziwe writing for it and playing Sojourner Truth
 
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EzekelRAGE said:
lol

Finished Fort Salem. Really enjoyed it. Looking forward to season 3.
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Thanks for the tip on sticking it out for a few more episodes. I'm 6 episodes in now and enjoying it quite a bit.

A bit of the relationship drama can be a bit much at times (but hey - it's Freeform). However, the central conflict with the Spree is very interesting and, as others have mentioned, the world-building has my attention.
 
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Spectromixer said:
variety.com

‘Dead Boy Detectives’ Series From Steve Yockey, Jeremy Carver, Greg Berlanti Gets HBO Max Pilot Order (EXCLUSIVE)

HBO Max has ordered a pilot for a potential "Dead Boy Detectives" series, based on the DC Comics characters created by Neil Gaiman
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Yockey did a great job with Flight Attendant so this should at least be worth checking out. If Sandman is a big hit Gaiman put out a ton of stuff that could make into a series. Books of Magic would be really good if everyone wouldn't assume its a Harry Potter knockoff.
 
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Thanks for the tip on sticking it out for a few more episodes. I'm 6 episodes in now and enjoying it quite a bit.

A bit of the relationship drama can be a bit much at times (but hey - it's Freeform). However, the central conflict with the Spree is very interesting and, as others have mentioned, the world-building has my attention.
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No problem, glad you enjoyed it.

carlsojo said:
I should watch Fort Salem huh
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Might as well
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Took a break from Good Fight for a bit, but I just caught up when I realized the season had ended.

The season started well and it was fun to have a new junior character (Carmen) and I liked her story of diving into defending a criminal, but she honestly didn't have much to do after a while. Marissa's storyline with the fake court kinda took over everything else.

By the half-way point the show became like 90% about the fake court which got pretty old. Honestly both that and the Jan. 6th storyline dragged a bit and both ended fairly abruptly.
 
Captjohnboyd

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Just want to give everyone a heads up about See on Apple. I know it wasn't a super popular show in its first season, and despite having a blast with it I understood it's shortcomings. Two episodes into season 2 I can say it's much better. The writing is leagues above season one so far, and characters and sub plots are being fleshed out better and in more interesting ways. They've also amped up the violence and fights so it's a bit more exciting as well. I'd always had hope it could be turned around given the Peaky Blinders pedigree but even I am surprised at how much more tangible the world feels here in season 2. I urge anyone who hasn't started it to at least give it a shot. It's not prestige level (although it's budget sure is lol) but it's getting closer.
 
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Captjohnboyd said:
Just want to give everyone a heads up about See on Apple. I know it wasn't a super popular show in its first season, and despite having a blast with it I understood it's shortcomings. Two episodes into season 2 I can say it's much better. The writing is leagues above season one so far, and characters and sub plots are being fleshed out better and in more interesting ways. They've also amped up the violence and fights so it's a bit more exciting as well. I'd always had hope it could be turned around given the Peaky Blinders pedigree but even I am surprised at how much more tangible the world feels here in season 2. I urge anyone who hasn't started it to at least give it a shot. It's not prestige level (although it's budget sure is lol) but it's getting closer.
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I want to give it a shot once the season ends!
 
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I want to give it a shot once the season ends!
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Post game of thrones I don't think there's another show out there with as large as budget on the screen. Entire cities seemed to have been built for the show. It never feels like it's one big set and a bunch of little rooms. It's wide open. I'm an unabashed big fan of bombast so it's no surprise I love it lol
 
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How To with John Wilson has got to be the most NYC thing ever produced. Just the shots he was able to get was as funny as the narrative he was building in each episode.
 
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