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2020-21 Season TV Cancellations/Pilots: Everything's Not Gonna Be Okay for Punky, Betty, Dickinson, or Sarah
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For some reason the image has been broken for me for the last week or two, but if I right click and open it in a new tab it loads fine
Weird! I just copied and pasted the image link again from Showbuzzdaily. I'm not sure what else I can do.
Hopefully it shows up this time for everyone.
Hopefully it shows up this time for everyone.
Saw Lesley Goldberg retweet this.
Yeah, these shows aren't being cancelled because they're female/queer/POC led. They're being cancelled because not enough people are watching them. Several of these shows were highly promoted (including GLOW), and at least Altered Carbon was also extremely high budget. If the ratings don't justify the cost, the show gets cancelled. It's been like that since the dawn of TV. Netflix still is the largest producer of female/queer/POC led shows out there, and they are continuing to make a ton of them even with all of these cancellations. Sex Education is one of their most watched shows, for example.
Things getting un-renewed due to COVID just means those shows were borderline cancel/renew in the first place, and due to the current situation they have to pick and choose where to make cuts, so things that barely got the thumbs up for renewal unfortunately now are being cancelled instead.
Man the budget on this must be huge.
Or at least it needs to be huge if they don't want it to look like crap.
They really need to make a new metric, otherwise single-episode releases will never make it.Streaming Neilson's are out. The Boys dropped in its second week, although there was only 1 new episode that week as opposed to 3.
Drunk History is a prime candidate for an animated series if budget was an issue.
Funny enough it's had so many international spinoffs but I don't think any of them have survived...
The Netflix / Mark Millar partnership seems to be completely cursed.
deadline.com
‘The Magic Order’ Not Moving Forward; Netflix Series Was Based On Mark Millar Comic
EXCLUSIVE: Netflix has opted not to proceed with The Magic Order, its upcoming series based on the Mark Millar comic published by Netflix. The project had been in early pre-production in Prague for a targeted 2021 start. It had not yet begun casting, with scripts still being written...
deadline.com
Woah, big moves today:
deadline.com
Channing Dungey Exits Netflix Amid Warner Bros TV Speculation
Channing Dungey has stepped down as VP Original Content and head of drama at Netflix after 20 months to pursue another opportunity.
deadline.com
Hollywood Reporter article on various un-renewals:
www.hollywoodreporter.com
Making Sense of TV’s Wave of “Un-Renewals”
As the novel coronavirus pandemic continues to ravage balance sheets across the entertainment industry, a rapidly rising number of scripted originals are having their previously announced renewals reversed.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
The Netflix / Mark Millar partnership seems to be completely cursed.
‘The Magic Order’ Not Moving Forward; Netflix Series Was Based On Mark Millar Comic
EXCLUSIVE: Netflix has opted not to proceed with The Magic Order, its upcoming series based on the Mark Millar comic published by Netflix. The project had been in early pre-production in Prague for a targeted 2021 start. It had not yet begun casting, with scripts still being written...
The optics on this are horrible given that Netflix probably sunk millions into developing this (I dare say Wan wasn't cheap to get onboard) when they have an adaptation of Jupiter's Legacy just around the corner that was (according to some) the clusterfuck of all clusterfucks productions.
Worth remembering that Millar's company was the first corporate acquisition that Netflix ever made and in the meantime they've made big money first look deals with Dark Horse and Boom studios spending big money on series like Umbrella Academy and Sandman both from outside studios.
Woah, big moves today:
Channing Dungey Exits Netflix Amid Warner Bros TV Speculation
Channing Dungey has stepped down as VP Original Content and head of drama at Netflix after 20 months to pursue another opportunity.
Woah.
This is actually a pretty big deal.
Hollywood Reporter article on various un-renewals:
Making Sense of TV’s Wave of “Un-Renewals”
As the novel coronavirus pandemic continues to ravage balance sheets across the entertainment industry, a rapidly rising number of scripted originals are having their previously announced renewals reversed.
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Woah, big moves today:
Channing Dungey Exits Netflix Amid Warner Bros TV Speculation
Channing Dungey has stepped down as VP Original Content and head of drama at Netflix after 20 months to pursue another opportunity.
I guess all the big name Cindy Holland, former Netflix 's head of contents, signed will exit soon.
And what the deal with Shonda Rhimes, since her big contact with Netflix in 2017, nothing came out since then. With ABC she had 2 or 3 new show every years.
This looks cleeeeeean. They cancelled Howard the Duck and the other shows though, right?
oh no it sucks we aren't getting more mark millarThe Netflix / Mark Millar partnership seems to be completely cursed.
‘The Magic Order’ Not Moving Forward; Netflix Series Was Based On Mark Millar Comic
EXCLUSIVE: Netflix has opted not to proceed with The Magic Order, its upcoming series based on the Mark Millar comic published by Netflix. The project had been in early pre-production in Prague for a targeted 2021 start. It had not yet begun casting, with scripts still being written...
lol
WOW!! Thats a ton for a show without a bunch of CGI but I guess the action scenes and costumes add up. And Alison Brie and Marc Maron certainly aren't cheap.
The Netflix / Mark Millar partnership seems to be completely cursed.
‘The Magic Order’ Not Moving Forward; Netflix Series Was Based On Mark Millar Comic
EXCLUSIVE: Netflix has opted not to proceed with The Magic Order, its upcoming series based on the Mark Millar comic published by Netflix. The project had been in early pre-production in Prague for a targeted 2021 start. It had not yet begun casting, with scripts still being written...
Bummer. Premise sounded interesting. Plus with The Magicians gone :( I don't really have a show in my lineup to fill that void.
To me it seems like all these executives play musical chairs with the companies they work for.
I believe Shonda's 1st Netflix project is supposed to hit before the end of the year.
I believe so, that MODOK is the only remaining one of the animated Hulu projects going forward.
I really enjoyed both Wanted and Kick-Ass when they came out, you would think the Millarworld stuff would have been a potential winner on Netflix, considering the success of The Umbrella Academy or The Boys on Amazon.
Sort of. Executives basically play a game of survivor in Hollywood. They're all terrified they are going to lose their jobs at any point and so are regularly risk-averse. They all start out together and more and more burn out or get fired from one too many jobs -- Once they've left a company, it is extremely rare to ever return to that company, and there's only so many. The survivors of each round essentially use each job as a stepping stone and reach the next level. Rinse and repeat until there's only a few left at the top. It's vicious.
Friday night's ratings. I'll also be including the link to the page from now on in case anyone can't see the grid:
http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/the-sked-friday-network-scorecard-10-9-2020.html
http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/the-sked-friday-network-scorecard-10-9-2020.html
Don't get me wrong, I love a lot of adaptations of Millar's work. But for them to succeed, they had to be given to strong creative teams that knew how to fix a lot of Millar's shit (Kick-Ass, the comic, is probably the worst piece of art I have ever consumed, while the film is an all-time favorite of mine).
My fear is that, inevitably, we'll get an adaptation that indulges in Millar's worst habits instead of fixing them.
As of earlier this year, Hit-Monkey was still supposed to be happening. Don't know if that changed quietly
Forgot about that one, might still be in play although I haven't heard much news about it lately.
I vaguely remember reading the comic, but I've heard some criticisms of Millar's work in the past. Will be interesting to see how Jupiter's Ascending turns out, especially with the comments hear that the production did not go well at all.
Seems like a high risk job, but Channing looks to have another job lined up at Warner Media it sounds like. I don't know how all the executive turnover will effect Netflix, since their target audience is everybody and they try to hit all genres. Aside from maybe being more cost effective in the future and targeting shows that can work internationally as well.
The Warner Media shakeup sounded like it resulted in the new regime valuing the Cinemax lineup more, with Warrior eventually coming to HBO Max so that's a plus.
Well, goes to show how little I've paid attention to Australian TV this year - there's actually a new season of Junior Masterchef Australia (with the new hosts) that juts started. lol
Its kinda funny I found myself wanting to watch a ghost show earlier but was immediately lamenting the days when the weren't oversaturated everywhere year-round on tv.
Kinda miss it being a special thing History Channel, Travel, etc on the weekends in like just October
Or when TCM, AMC or whatever is was would have like 1 Friday night where they'd play all the classic Universal Monster movies.
Kinda miss it being a special thing History Channel, Travel, etc on the weekends in like just October
Or when TCM, AMC or whatever is was would have like 1 Friday night where they'd play all the classic Universal Monster movies.
This week's US Top 10 Netflix TV shows, for the week of October 11:
1.) The Haunting of Bly Manor (Season 1)
2.) Emily in Paris (Season 1)
3.) Schitt's Creek (Seasons 1-6)
4.) The 100 (Seasons 1-7)
5.) Ratched (Season 1)
6.) Evil (Season 1)
7.) The Great British Baking Show (Collections 1-8)
8.) Cocomelon (Season 1)
9.) Fast and Furious: Spy Racers Rio (Seasons 1-2)
10.) Jurassic World: Camp Cretaceous (Season 1)
1.) The Haunting of Bly Manor (Season 1)
2.) Emily in Paris (Season 1)
3.) Schitt's Creek (Seasons 1-6)
4.) The 100 (Seasons 1-7)
5.) Ratched (Season 1)
6.) Evil (Season 1)
7.) The Great British Baking Show (Collections 1-8)
8.) Cocomelon (Season 1)
9.) Fast and Furious: Spy Racers Rio (Seasons 1-2)
10.) Jurassic World: Camp Cretaceous (Season 1)
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What's interesting is that is called MARVEL'S MODOK while Helstrom is just Helstrom.
we should keep track of how many weeks Cocomelon stays in there.
I was wondering about doing that too, or putting some other stats or something (like what's new, what's returned, etc.) But it's a little hard to tell since it's kinda arbitrary as I just started tracking this stuff recently.
also since new stuff comes out on Friday, they should always be near the top of the list on Sunday.
cocomelon has been in the top 10 every week since you started post them, I think
That's true! I forgot about that. Lol.
And yeah, Cocomelon and I think that Jurassic Park show have been in the top 10 every week. Kids shows are surprisingly consistent when it comes to viewership.
There has been a few places keeping track, Forbes has the top 50 as of September (and I think US only)
50. 100 Humans - 74 points
49. Teenage Bounty Hunters - 75 points
48. The Big Show Show - 76 points
47. Get Organized with The Home Edit - 79 points
46. The Boss Baby: Back in Business - 80 points
45. Fear City - 83 points
44. The Seven Deadly Sins - 84 points
42. (tie) Sister, Sister - 88 points
42. (tie) Dark Desire - 88 points
41. Fuller House - 89 points
40. Self Made - 90 points
38. (tie) I Am Not Okay With This - 95 points
38. (tie) The Baby-Sitters Club- 95 points
37. World's Most Wanted - 97 points
36. The Last Kingdom - 102 points
35. On My Block - 108 points
34. Hollywood - 109 points
33. Altered Carbon - 112 points
32. Money Heist - 120 points
31. Waco - 123 points
28. (tie) The Legend of Korra- 127 points
28. (tie) Never Have I Ever - 127 points
28. (tie) Too Hot to Handle - 127 points
27. Warrior Nun - 137 points
26. Down to Earth with Zac Efron - 145 points
25. Riverdale - 146 points
24. CoComelon - 147 points
23. Cursed - 152 points
22. The Order - 158 points
21. The Last Dance - 177 points
20. Sweet Magnolias - 181 points
18. (tie) Lucifer - 183 points
18. (tie) Away - 183 points
17. The Trials of Gabriel Hernandez - 190 points
16. Unsolved Mysteries - 196 points
15. Floor is Lava - 203 points
14. Shameless - 206 points
13. Dead to Me - 230 points
12. 13 Reasons Why - 233 points
11. Space Force - 248 points
10. Cobra Kai - 249 points
9. Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich - 261 points
8. All American - 266 points
7. The Office - 280 points
6. Love is Blind - 299 points
5. The Umbrella Academy - 320 points
4. Avatar: The Last Airbender - 339 point
3. Outer Banks - 356 points
2. Ozark - 377 points
1. Tiger King: Murder, Mayhem and Madness - 387 points
49. Teenage Bounty Hunters - 75 points
48. The Big Show Show - 76 points
47. Get Organized with The Home Edit - 79 points
46. The Boss Baby: Back in Business - 80 points
45. Fear City - 83 points
44. The Seven Deadly Sins - 84 points
42. (tie) Sister, Sister - 88 points
42. (tie) Dark Desire - 88 points
41. Fuller House - 89 points
40. Self Made - 90 points
38. (tie) I Am Not Okay With This - 95 points
38. (tie) The Baby-Sitters Club- 95 points
37. World's Most Wanted - 97 points
36. The Last Kingdom - 102 points
35. On My Block - 108 points
34. Hollywood - 109 points
33. Altered Carbon - 112 points
32. Money Heist - 120 points
31. Waco - 123 points
28. (tie) The Legend of Korra- 127 points
28. (tie) Never Have I Ever - 127 points
28. (tie) Too Hot to Handle - 127 points
27. Warrior Nun - 137 points
26. Down to Earth with Zac Efron - 145 points
25. Riverdale - 146 points
24. CoComelon - 147 points
23. Cursed - 152 points
22. The Order - 158 points
21. The Last Dance - 177 points
20. Sweet Magnolias - 181 points
18. (tie) Lucifer - 183 points
18. (tie) Away - 183 points
17. The Trials of Gabriel Hernandez - 190 points
16. Unsolved Mysteries - 196 points
15. Floor is Lava - 203 points
14. Shameless - 206 points
13. Dead to Me - 230 points
12. 13 Reasons Why - 233 points
11. Space Force - 248 points
10. Cobra Kai - 249 points
9. Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich - 261 points
8. All American - 266 points
7. The Office - 280 points
6. Love is Blind - 299 points
5. The Umbrella Academy - 320 points
4. Avatar: The Last Airbender - 339 point
3. Outer Banks - 356 points
2. Ozark - 377 points
1. Tiger King: Murder, Mayhem and Madness - 387 points
Source:
The 50 Most Popular Shows On Netflix (So Far) In 2020
In what has been the most viral year ever for Netflix, these 50 shows have been the most popular.
www.forbes.com
Also there is another one that is more worldwide that covers both movies and series:
Biggest Netflix Titles in 2020 According to the Netflix Top 10s
Netflix’s top 10 feature was launched at the end of February 2020 in more than 100 countries after a few months of testing in the UK and Mexico. What looked like another list in the...
www.whats-on-netflix.com
It is absolutely wild that a 10 episode half-hour comedy season has the same budget a a major blockbuster movie. Even setting aside Covid, this does not seem sustainable!