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2018-19 Season TV Cancellations/Pilots: Perfectionist Horseman commits perjury, held In Contempt
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Didn't our lord and saviour PWB kinda say this when she announced series 2? I'm incredibly excited for whatever she does next though.
In other "Paramount Network' keeps bungling their launch news",
'Younger' Staying Put at TV Land for Season 6
It was going to be paired with two shows on Paramount Network: First Wives Club, which has moved to BET, and Emily in Paris, which has been delayed a year.
'Younger' Staying Put at TV Land for Season 6
It was going to be paired with two shows on Paramount Network: First Wives Club, which has moved to BET, and Emily in Paris, which has been delayed a year.
These people are absolutely tasteless and have no idea what makes interesting television. Does Westworld really do THAT WELL to make a 9 figure deal make sense?
idk who can even keep track of these things
Great read, thanks!
No but there's a big talent land rush for the Streaming Warz, so anyone who has made even a moderate hit is getting snapped up. (Jonathan Nolan also created Person of Interest, which lasted 5 seasons, in addition to writing a bunch of Christopher Nolan's films, so there's that as well)
No but Person of Interest(the previous show he did) was the best thing on TV from late S1-S5
Confirmation that The Peripheral is still alive. Very happy to hear that.
And with Agency released Jan 2020 should be plenty of content to draw from.
Well, they seem to be making it very clear that they'll still run Westworld if it goes further, which makes it kind of crazy that Amazon is paying them so much.
I would assume they're feeling pretty good about how The Peripheral is shaping up?
I have a hard time imagining these premium overall deals are financially sound. It's just an irrational arms race based on FOMO.
So CBS is making a military courtroom drama called The Code. It makes me wonder why they didn't just reboot JAG. lol
Well, considering that both the leads of "JAG" are making an appearance together on "NCIS:LA", I'd say a JAG reboot could very be in the cards.
News like this makes me kind of happy but maybe that's just cause I like to blame the death of "nobodies" on Paramount and that weird series move.
Paramount seems like a place for networks to dump other shows for syndication money
I haven't watched an NCIS show in half a year... it feels weird. lol
And I can't believe they're bringing them back... lol
Given their lofty goals for Paramount Network, you would think they'd have put a little more forethought into planning their programming lineup. Like, after the breakout success of Yellowstone you'd think they'd have tried to fast track something to air alongside it - yet it's now their only scripted show for the whole year at the moment. Uh...
I really wish he'd get on that. It seemed to be a sure thing, and imminent, when it was first announced. I just finished up the 5 parter that Last Podcast on the Left put out for Jonestown a year ago and it was fantastic. It's a fascinating story and has just enough depravity (outside of the totally fucked end to Peoples Temple we all know about) to fit really well with Vince. Jim Jones started out as a guy that, despite always being a bit of a con, did some real good in the community and that sort of light and dark is firmly in Gilligan's wheelhouse
You know Westworld isn't for everyone and I get that. I love the show even I recognize it's faults. Ultimately, though, it's still a well made, fun, decently written show that at times is elevated beyond it's pulpy core. So I don't really get the animosity. Some people just really hate this show
Also, as others said, Jonathan did Person of Interest which is pretty beloved, and all Christopher's best movies were written by Jonathan. So Westworld hate aside they're not really that bad a writing team
I think the reason Westworld gets ragged on is how up its own ass it is. It also really plays with the audience in a way that isn't nice. Telling storylines in intentionally confusing ways that are completely unnecessary.
I would definitely say it's a show that thinks it's better than it is. It has that HBO budget, so production-wise of course it looks good and is "Well made", but I would say the writing leaves a lot to be desired. And it has notoriously been plagued with numerous production halts whenever they don't quite know where they want to go next with the story.
Obviously Jonah Nolan has a lot of talent, but paired with his wife rather than his brother (or Greg Plageman)... the results have been less than stellar. I'm not sure what that says about him as a writer or her influence on him as a writer, but it is notable. I think this deal is pretty puzzling. I mean, I get it, but also it seems like way too much for that this particular team has demonstrated they're capable of. But I guess Amazon does have the money to just throw around.
?? I remember beyond the pilot that they had an extended stoppage to "figure it out" but I haven't heard of any other delays beyond normal ones post that first episode/year. Certainly nothing that was attributed to plotting issues. In fact in several interviews they've said they have had the entire series plotted out from start to finish almost since day one. Obviously I take that sort of stuff with a grain of salt but despite all the convoluted twists and turns for their own sake I get the impression that, with regards to overall arc, they do know where they want the show to finish and generally how they want it to get there.
All that said, I get it. When I wrote well made I meant more than just the budget and "looks" but do I agree that they seem to feel a need to spice up the show with pseudointellectual malarkey that's just not necessary. I think at it's core it's a reasonably well written show but the problem is they add in a bunch of unnecessary junk sometimes that spoils the Goodwill. You could argue that alone makes the show not well written and I'd understand but I'm only trying to say I think the vitriol aimed at the show sometimes is a bit overwrought.
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well... I mean. I did make the thread. So you're not wrong. 🤐
Yeah the bold is definitely not true.
They had production stops during the pilot (and some of the original pilot became episode two), and they also had a massive production stop around 6/7 to figure out the rest of the season (this is when the Bernard "twist" happened -- it wasn't planned originally). They also only had a vague idea of what season two would be (Dolores' "father" being what he ended up being, for example, was not pre-planned. It was a plan change due to the positive reception to the actor), and then in the middle of Season two they had another production stop because they again didn't know where they were going, and Damon Lindelof was brought in to help fix it (he's also the reason for the standout Native American focused episode).
Friday night's ratings. Fresh Off the Boat ticked up a little for its special 100th episode. The series finale of Crazy Ex-Girlfriend was in line with how well the final season has been doing:
What the hell. I specifically remember reading more than one article about them having a plan. Wasn't there some big thing they made about having a big board with the whole series planned out or something?
Do you mind if I ask where you got the information about season two? I looked up production issues and could only find the pilot/season one bit which is common knowledge and them shutting down for a couple months towards the tail end of season one filming. Everything in season two was wildfires or injuries on set. If you'd lead me in the right direction I'd appreciate it as I'm very curious now
Did they actually go to Taiwan or was it a set? I couldn't really tell. lolFriday night's ratings. Fresh Off the Boat ticked up a little for its special 100th episode. The series finale of Crazy Ex-Girlfriend was in line with how well the final season has been doing:
Don't forget the numerous times Hawaii also doubles as North Korea, Afghanistan and Hostile Asian Countries.
LOL.
Its always like the same little valley as well, even Magnum PI used that area for North Korea.
Last episode of SEAL Team looked like it was filmed near there but I doubt it,
still waiting for Navy Seal McGarrett to team up with Navy Seal Magnum and David Boreanaz's Seal Team.
It's like everyone is a Navy Seal.
Even LL Cool J on NCIS Los Angeles which also is in the same universe.
I want to do a fanfilm where all the shows and movies filmed in Vancover crash each other.
It has not been renewed yet. ABC typically saves all of their decisions until May, but they've uncharacteristically announced quite a few early renewals this year.
Second hand info from people involved with the show. It's not the kind of thing you would find online. Feel free to not believe me if you want.
No I actually do. I'll admit to being skeptical upon reading your first post but your second seemed pretty specific. I thought maybe there were some page six type articles that had mentioned the stuff with Damon etc so I was just curious.
Despite it feeling to me like they had a general plan I could certainly see them winging it based on some of the scattershot plot issues but I continue to enjoy the show and I'm always going to be lined up for sci-fi even when it's not that good because we have such a small selection on television. Hopefully soon, with Amazon stepping up to the plate with a wealth of great properties, I'll be able to pick only the best material out there
Thanks for the insight
HBO and Amazon have a shit-load of big sci-fi stuff coming up. Apple and Netflix have a few as well. The next 2-3 years are going to be a very good time to be a sci-fi fan imo.
No doubt! I'm beyond excited. I've tempered my expectations quite a bit for Apple's streaming though. In the wake of their seeming family friendly push as well the behind the scenes shit show we've been hearing about I'm losing some faith. I certainly won't rule out a show simply because it's family friendly but some of the properties and creators they've picked up just don't fit that mold at all. I'm actually hoping they'll pivot post launch. I'd imagine the money's better in offering a diverse catalogue
So the BBC made a "race around the world" type show, but with the catch being that it's an actual race. lol
There's a piece on some of the logistical nightmares they faced trying to produce it though:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47827316
There's a piece on some of the logistical nightmares they faced trying to produce it though:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47827316
Completely agree with you. I've heard though, at minimum, that For All Mankind, the Ronald Moore show, has turned out well.
It seems like a pretty standard marketing move for post-Lost serialized shows to claim they have a huge plan all mapped out.
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