I feel you, generally not a huge fan of war movies but 1917 is definitely one of the best I've seen.
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1917 v Parasite
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Long Day's Journey Into Night's 59min long take is far more impressive (there's only one obvious transition) than all of 1917 and has more thematic resonance on the nature of memory and nostalgia.
1917 because it doesn't abruptly become another genre for the third act. Films need to be consistent for me to consider them great, and Parasite just loses me when it decides to stop being funny and become ultra-violent melodrama for thirty minutes. The epilogue is admittedly very endearing, but man does the third act just drop everything that made the first two acts great.
I believe it. There's a chance I'll see it if it's on streaming if my film bro makes me do it. You can't get me in the theater if I don't care but I'll do it at the house.
Better have a big TV then, a lot of my enjoyment came from the visuals lol
I did, yeah.
The daughter dying is a hugely unnecessary bummer, but the son dreaming of working hard and earning lots of money to one day buy that mansion and be reunited with his father was super touching, even if it is ultimately a naive and unattainable dream.
Hopefully 55 will suffice because my wife ain't trying to hear about a bigger tv lol
Ultimately not being able to escape his shackles. Father and son indebted to each other with false hope.
1917. Good film just finished it. Plot was simple, but didn't bother me.Technically the film was great, sets, costumes, camera etc. Deakins is the master so film looked incredible, however I thing this whole "one shot" thing will be the main take away, and the main reason this wins any cinematography awards.
Where as something like Parasite, does so much with the camera and will be overlooked.
Where as something like Parasite, does so much with the camera and will be overlooked.
Parasite was the best movie of the year imo. I liked 1917, it was frequently good to great, and what Deakins did on it is super impressive even if ultimately I think the one-take gimmickry detracts more from the experience than adds to it. But I just don't think that film will stick with me as long as Parasite will, and certainly wasn't as impactful in the moment.
Parasite. 1917, fantastic production values aside I found dramatically inert and a bit dull compared to something like Dunkirk, which felt like there was tension around the stakes involved.
1917 is an amazing piece of cinema and Deakins should get 2nd Oscar for it, seriously. Some scenes are so amazing.
But as a movie overall (story, acting, emotions) Parasite is better IMO. I just still don't understand why it's nominated in main category. So why other great foreign pictures aren't? It's like only directors who have some ties to Hollywood get nominated outside of International Movie, lol.
But as a movie overall (story, acting, emotions) Parasite is better IMO. I just still don't understand why it's nominated in main category. So why other great foreign pictures aren't? It's like only directors who have some ties to Hollywood get nominated outside of International Movie, lol.
I didn't see any ultra violence nor extreme genre switch, the final part felt like an eruption of all the things boiling under the surface and built to it steadily.
I'm in the minority and enjoyed 1917 more.
Parasite was a great film, but it didn't land for me the way I was hoping it did. I watched it after all the massive hype around it exploded, and I guess I was just expecting more. In the end it still ended up being a good movie, but it didn't resonate with me in the way 1917 did.
Parasite was a great film, but it didn't land for me the way I was hoping it did. I watched it after all the massive hype around it exploded, and I guess I was just expecting more. In the end it still ended up being a good movie, but it didn't resonate with me in the way 1917 did.
I was bored as hell watching 1917, the only thing I liked was the cinematography. It was basically another Dunkirk for me
1917 is better than Green Book at least lol
They're all in my top 4 along with Marriage Story
Nobody would care about 1917 if it weren't for the "one take" effect. Parasite is something special.
"Nobody would care about this movie if it weren't for a pretty big stylistic choice" is pretty funny, especially when the soundtrack, cinematography and acting are all really solid as well.
Parasite is an absolute cinematic masterpiece with an original story, poignant themes, masterful cinematography, a gorgeous color palette, and an ensemble cast that works in tandem perfectly together. 1917 is a dull war movie with thin as line characters/narrative doing a gimmick Birdman did better five years earlier. The answer is obvious.
Parasite for sure. I think it's already been said before on here how much of a masterpiece it is.
But 1917 was also incredible. I really appreciated the "show don't tell" approach they took with the storytelling. A lot of movies would've chosen to explain character motivations or include tidbits of exposition to try and make you care for the main characters more but 1917 forgoes all that and does it all visually. Would not be mad if it won the Oscar for BP but I'd prefer if Parasite won it.
But 1917 was also incredible. I really appreciated the "show don't tell" approach they took with the storytelling. A lot of movies would've chosen to explain character motivations or include tidbits of exposition to try and make you care for the main characters more but 1917 forgoes all that and does it all visually. Would not be mad if it won the Oscar for BP but I'd prefer if Parasite won it.
I mean, yeah, but Green Book is one of the worst Oscar winners in recent years lol.
For me it's on the lower end of this year's BP noms. It's better than Joker and Ford v. Ferrari, but it's nothing special either. It's the "The Post" or "Darkest Hour" of 2019.
It looks very nice, but that's the only really noteworthy thing in it. Sure, as you said, the acting and soundtrack is fine, but it's far from Top 10 material of the year and the script is just your standard "Big, Emotional War Story"-script that we've seen a million times before.
1917 is a fine film elevated by Roger Deakins, Parasite is the best film of the past decade. it's not even a contest
Loved both but Parasite is a whole different level. On a non-Parasite year I'd have voted 1917.
Parasite. 1917 is really good but it's not even the best war movie of the year
Justice for A Hidden Life!
Saying "1917 is overhyped except for the excellent filmmaking" is kinda missing the point.
Justice for A Hidden Life!
Saying "1917 is overhyped except for the excellent filmmaking" is kinda missing the point.
Parasite is so well crafted and acted that it doesn't feel like a fair comparison.
Trust Hollywood to shit on it, as usual.
Trust Hollywood to shit on it, as usual.
I agree that Parasite is the better work all around, but I think that underplaying the craft involved in 1917 is kind of a disservice. Yeah, it's a rather barebones story serving mostly as a vehicle for the cinematography, but I think those kinds of films, the simple but technical cinema as visual craft in its highest form, are worth celebrating. It's Oscar bait, but it's good Oscar bait.
I refuse to throw my hat in on either of these movies! I really enjoyed them both, so much. I'd be content with either getting the win this year.
Really? I thought it helped the movie tremendously. It added so much to the overall atmosphere and tension.
I watched Parasite on Saturday night and saw 1917 in the theater on Sunday (yesterday).
I think they were both great films. 1917 might be one of the great war movies ever made, and did have a huge emotional impact on me, but Parasite seems wholly unique, and mind blowing, and as such, I voted Parasite.
I think they were both great films. 1917 might be one of the great war movies ever made, and did have a huge emotional impact on me, but Parasite seems wholly unique, and mind blowing, and as such, I voted Parasite.
The tonal shift is briefly foreshadowed in the driving scene, but overall the tone radically shifts in the third act when the movie abruptly stops being funny/low stakes and goes full drama/high stakes.
Through the first and second acts, they're still the opportunistic family of con artists that would happily freeload on fumigation even if it means living in it, but in the third act they're hopeless, crying about personal failure, and contemplating murder.
I disagre that the tone radically shifts, the film steadily builds to the release that occurs and for a while before is bubbling under the surface ready to explode.
That "tone change" is not some "radical shift" and simply just the inevitable explosion of all these actions accumulating.
Feels like you're dancing around the fact that the first two acts are hilarious and the third act is deadly serious. This is the tonal shift that really bums me out, especially considering there are so many ways the third act could've gone that would maintain the momentum of the black comedy. I agree there was an "inevitable explosion" coming, I just think it could've executed in a more comedic and less heavy handed way.
Not dancing around anything, but nice posturing lol.
The first two acts were not hilarious to me either, that is subjective. The first two acts were a dark comedy that was very, very clearly slowly building to an eruption. That doesn't make the inevitable eruption a "radical tonal shift", it just makes it... the inevitable eruption. It was likely to be violent, and nothing about it radically shifts the tone imo as all the tonal elements of the eruption were always there bubbling under the surface.
