Why are so many of you convinced Trump is some evil mastermind?Said it yesterday but this racist outburst was strategic. It's some awful, evil shit but it's already worked.
Again, I totally apologize for my earlier posts. Thank you for saying it better than I could. I shouldn't have used the term tinfoil hat.Ok, I will. My ancestors on one side of my family fled from the Cossacks. My grandfather on the other side was captured by the Nazis during WWII and held in terrible internment until he escaped with a few others months later. He was lucky, relatively speaking.
The Holocaust has its specific victims, and calling another event (however similar or different) "The Holocaust" is problematic to the honor of those victims and their experiences. Let's not have the subject be derailed, we should be able to discuss "it's happening again" and "these are the steps, we're at step X" while still being aware of The Holocaust and its place in history. Everyone is entitled to their time and place in it.
We also should be able to discuss this without accusing others of "tinfoil hat" stuff simply because they are concerned about possible historical parallels. There is no reason to set anyone off in this thread, we are all examining what is currently happening and trying to remain aware, upright, engaged, and hopeful.
On a more positive note, today people are working on the problems you mention and are actively winning in courts. Children are being found, though there is clearly much more work to do. Today that ridiculous citizenship question was completely blocked by the Census and oversight of the process will be done by the courts. Protests happen every day across the country, and what happened in Congress today is just a public exposure of what was already present (partly as a result of the activism that brought new people to Congress). So we are not ye in a place of full despair.
As much as people don't want to admit it, we have to work with the other party to get things done. To get thing done, you must be realistic and rational. Saying the holocaust is here is far from being realistic and rational. That is all.
Actual jews have told me that in person. It's not an abstract thing that I pulled out of my ass. But you're right. I need to learn and do better.You do realize they were heavily slammed for this by many different Jewish organizations and the vast majority of academics specializing in the holocaust, right?
You really don't have the grounds for derailing this thread with pedantry here.
Yup. This means nothing.
People said the exact same thing about the bs resolution they wrote up against Omar that was changed after public blowback to being against all forms of hate speech. That it was Pelosi showing her political prowess because it showed how awful Republicans are and it will help in the 2020 election.
But guess what? Everyone forgot or didn't care. Same thing will happen here.
I don't believe I ever implied this was the decisive moment that would precipitate his downfall. I just said it hurt his polling among a group he needs. It'll be one of the thousand cuts that leads to his loss.
How do you define modern day? It's been a cult since Reagan.
If you still identify as a republican you must really love low taxes
187 voted against a measure that stated that being American isn't defined by race.
4 of them voted to support that measure. You can absolutely begin to work them but the other 187 are fucking dead in the water.
Minx never fails coming into the most sensitive threads with the absolute worst takes. Your judgement is so off it's legit scary that you're an officer. Legit fucking scary.
Well I apologize then. I 100% support Jewish people, let's get that straight. I just think saying there are possibly "secret exterminations" happening stokes a lot of fear that may be unfounded.
Then don't compare attempted genocide to this. It's not a good look and I'm sure would offend plenty of Jewish people.
Me not agreeing the holocaust is here = scary I'm an officer. I don't see the correlation but you are entitled to your baffling opinion.Minx never fails coming into the most sensitive threads with the absolute worst takes. Your judgement is so off it's legit scary that you're an officer. Legit fucking scary.
Well then let Jewish posters express their offense if they feel it.
Personally, as a Jewish person, I'm fucking enraged whenever people try to limit terms like the Holocaust to just what happened to the Jews. Never Again means never fucking again, not never again but only related to Jews. We have clearly been seeing escalation in white supremacist language and actions. I have had people who lived through WWII and who personally heard Hitler on TV sounding the alarms about Trump before he even won the presidency.
Me not agreeing the holocaust is here = scary I'm an officer. I don't see the correlation but you are entitled to your baffling opinion.
I agree OP but I don't know if it's useful or right (or for that matter anything Jewish people would agree with ) to say "the holocaust is here." Or tinfoil hat stuff.
Although there have been different types of concentration camps, the footnote concluded, ''All had one thing in common: the people in power decided to remove a minority group from the general population, and the rest of society let it happen.''
Under Reagan, HW and W there was a modicum of traditional party/ It has always been pro-Big Business and always had religious nuts in it. But the complete zombification, complete destruction of any thought whatsoever has been so thorough and so complete, you won't find any other mass movement that became a cult so quick. Donald Trump is the Republican party.
As much as people don't want to admit it, we have to work with the other party to get things done. To get thing done, you must be realistic and rational. Saying the holocaust is here is far from being realistic and rational. That is all.
The holocaust is here is certainly a take I haven't heard yet. You realize 6 millions Jews died right? I understand you are emotional about all this but we still have to remain rational. No one will take you seriously otherwise.
Me not agreeing the holocaust is here = scary I'm an officer. I don't see the correlation but you are entitled to your baffling opinion.
You are right I suppose I shouldn't assume Jewish people would be offended. I guess I just think people are delusional if they truely believe America would replicate the holocaust, one of the biggest genocides in modern times.
Me not agreeing the holocaust is here = scary I'm an officer. I don't see the correlation but you are entitled to your baffling opinion.
You are right I suppose I shouldn't assume Jewish people would be offended. I guess I just think people are delusional if they truely believe America would replicate the holocaust, one of the biggest genocides in modern times.
To find some sort of compromise where kids aren't being kept in cages away from their parents and for no wall to be built. We obviously need to reform our immigration while still knowing who is coming into our country. I'm no political expert but I doubt this can be done until the dems win 2020.
I don't agree with us being on 7 or 8 at all.We're between stages 7 and 8 on the 10 stage scale of genocide. If you don't think it can happen here (hint: it already has in the past) you are the one that is delusional.
Yeah okay, so now you can't read? Where did I say anything about holocaust comments. I responded to this portion.
"As much as people don't want to admit it, we have to work with the other party to get things done"
You said this in a thread about a party that couldn't even fucking work with Democrats to label an outright racist statement as racist...
Like wow, imagine being that dense. Working with the "other party" only seems to roll one way it seems, thats whats truly baffling. Thats why I called out your judgement, and being astounded that you're in a position of power that could cause real harm to people out there. Cant fade that shit.
Thinking that history can't repeat itself is the height of delusion.
To find some sort of compromise where kids aren't being kept in cages away from their parents and for no wall to be built. We obviously need to reform our immigration while still knowing who is coming into our country. I'm no political expert but I doubt this can be done until the dems win 2020.
You didn't quote me so how would I know what comment you were referring to. Working with the other party from either side is how the government has worked for.... Forever? I don't see how I'm the dense one here.
Republicans have always been the party of the president when in power. Reagan and both Bushes said and did truly vile shit and the GOP always had their backs. Trump just can't read from their playbook since hes a functional illiterate.
dont worry, we just compromised with a bill that gives them money to expand the camps, while at the same time not promising any improvements to the conditions of those in them
I think I might see the problem here. Have you been frozen in a block of ice for the last 15+ years?
Because if you haven't, this seems to indicate you haven't been paying attention to what's going on in the world since at least the election of Obama.
Please show me credible news articles showing me murders and trial massacres of immigrants.
they said we're between 7 and 8Please show me credible news articles showing me murders and trial massacres of immigrants.