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Besides storm, magneto, and Xavier, the rest of the xmens culture/race isn't relevant to their characters.
Give me Scott Verano
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18 percent of Americans are Hispanic. Where the fuck is our Hollywood representation?
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How are we able to accurately know? With so many stage names and a significant number of Hispanics being white, shouldn't we really be complaining about the lack of representation of those who are visibly of mixed descent since that can be objectively seen?
There was at least one off screen when Cliff said "don't cry in front of the Mexicans".
I would love to see Sunspot brought into the main team for this purpose, or even Rictor.
As for other things White Tiger (the newest) and also Echo from the Daredevil side of things
As for other things White Tiger (the newest) and also Echo from the Daredevil side of things
Tony Revolori is Hispanic and is Flash Thompson/future good guy Venom in the Spidey movies.
He was also the lead in Grand Budapest Hotel for whoever was saying Wes Anderson never did a movie with a Hispanic actor.
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Wtf
dudes real name is Anthony Quionez apparently.
what a dick, shoulda kept his real name.
Don't start this nonsense we all know how race is generally used.
So the population was around 12 percent in 2000, so it ballooned significantly in the past 20 years. Based on that statistic, this is a relatively recent development in part to the Mexican US immigration boom of the early 2000s. Give it some time, representation will inevitably come with the current rate demographic shift.
Most white latinos are mixed too just to a lesser extent than darker latinos and sometimes Latinos with more European blood end up darker than Latinos with less European blood.
Plus it's also good to remind Americans that not all Latinos look the same so I say give white latinos and black latinos more representation too.
We're not all tan.
Super Hispanic names scare the casting people off.
There's a reason that Poe Dameron's actor changed his name from Óscar Isaac Hernández Estrada to Oscar Isaac.
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I demand a lawsuit against Hollywood casting people.
i demand it!
If I was taller/ had a better voice I would totally try being an actor. I think I could pull it off. Now I'm thinking about whether or not my name would be a hindrence
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What the hell I didn't post that quote? don't attribute things to people that they didn't post.
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Hm I probably deleted a previous reply and had that jumbled in somehow
sorry!
It's at least a family name and not something completely made up like say, James Roday.
I mean there's more than a few celebrities who don't have Hispanic sounding names(stage or otherwise) who are Hispanic.
Charlie Sheen, Martin Sheen, Raquel Welch, Bruno Mars, and Vanna White are all Hispanic.
Race is an inconsistent concept. I don't care whether you consider Latino a race or not. I care that people realize that how we think about race is illogical.
The tragedy is that they have to hide their Hispanic names to make themselves more marketable.
Charlie Sheen and Martin Sheen both changed their names to sound more American.
Charlie Sheen's real name is Carlos Irwin Estevez.
Martin Sheen's real name is Ramon Gerardo Antonio Estevez.
Bruno Mars' real name is Peter Gene Hernandez (although this is more forgiveable as music artists change their name all the time)
Raquel Welch's real name is Jo Raquel Tejada. She used her husband's name to avoid typecasting as a Latina.
Radio had a huge 90's latin boom as well. Ricky Martin, Jennifer Lopez, Enrique Iglesias, Selena, Marc Anthony, Luis Miguel, etc etc. Shit was eeevvvverywhere
It's still everywhere.
In fact some of the most popular artists right now are latin.
If any of you are interested in knowing some interesting stuff you should watch John Leguizamo's Latin History for Morrons on Netflix.
Oh, for sure, it didn't die off in music. But it was something else in the 90's, seriously.
It's pretty interesting seeing Martin Sheen(Ramon Estevez), Charlie Sheen(Carlos Estevez) and Emilio Estevez' point of view on this. Martin used his stage name because of discrimination but regrets it, Charlie Sheen wanted to capitalize on his father's brand name and Emilio just couldn't get behind it and is proud of his Hispanic heritage.
Like Charlie Sheen says himself that he doesn' feel Hispanic although he acknowledges that part of himself. He just feels like another white guy. But his brother, Emilio, does feel Hispanic.
Tidbits from those interviews:
Apparently, Martin Sheen's father was super-disappointed when he saw his son starring in a play under his stage rather than his real name that he shook his head.
And Emilio Estevez said he had people come up to him just telling him how much it meant to them seeing his Hispanic name on the big screen.
If you're born and raised in Latin America, it makes you both a Latino and a Hispanic (Brazil excluded for the latter), regardless of the race of your parents.
You're right that Joaquin Phoenix being considered Hispanic/Latino is quite a stretch, as he was only coincidentally born there and was not raised as a Puerto Rican. However, you don't need Hispanic/Latin ancestry to be Hiapanic or Latin. If a Polish couple, for example, migrated to Latin America and had their children born and raised there, as Spanish speakers, they would be both Hispanic and Latino.
Yes.
It's not a race, and what you're doing is called erasure. You say we have "distinct features", but you're probably thinking about mestizo features, which not all Latinos have because... not all Latinos are mestizo. By trying to make Hispanic or Latino a race, you're excluding (thus erasing) the rights of Latinos descended from Africans, Asians, Indians, Polynesians, Middle Eastern and European to be called Latino and to identify as such.
Please don't do that.
No such thing as a "Latin American ethnicity". The indigenous/European/African mix you're thinking about is called mestizo. But non-mestizos are still Latino if they are born and raised in Latin America.
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Absolutely yes. I have ethnically Japanese cousins who were born and raised in Mexico, have a Mexican passport, and no one ever questions their Mexican-ness. Ideally no one should feel excluded, but people who "don't look Mexican" yet are part of the culture/language would have no problem fitting in Mexican society as opposed to a "Mexican looking" person who is culturally American or whatever.
Tony Revolori was the breakout star of The Grand Budapest hotel.
it's currently happening again and this time the songs are in spanish too. urbano is huge right now.
This is pretty much why Lupita has Mexican citizenship. Her Luo dad was teaching there and she was born there then her parents moved back to Kenya before she even turned 1.
So when people use her as an example of Latinos in movies... 👀
Gives me a forest for the trees feeling
The irony is that representation was slightly better back then.
Good topic OP.
I wonder how many actors we know as Black or White are also ethnically Latino/Hispanic, but for sake of landing jobs don't make it known or obvious.
It think it'll take more diversity at the producer and director level for Hispanic representation to begin to match the demographics. Pretty much what has been (slowly but surely) happening for Black's in Hollywood will need to happen here.
I wonder how many actors we know as Black or White are also ethnically Latino/Hispanic, but for sake of landing jobs don't make it known or obvious.
It think it'll take more diversity at the producer and director level for Hispanic representation to begin to match the demographics. Pretty much what has been (slowly but surely) happening for Black's in Hollywood will need to happen here.
I don't think it really matters where the person is from when it comes to representation. A very large amount of white actors in Hollywood are actually British rather than American. Do those people just not count into that total? I'm pretty sure they do.
Well "American" pop culture is heavily driven by African Americans and even then they get under represented. Everyone in America bites their shit, including Hispanics.
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Spielberg just wrapped on West Side Story, which is out in December:
https://deadline.com/2019/10/west-s...egler-ariana-debose-david-alvarez-1202750316/
https://deadline.com/2019/10/west-s...egler-ariana-debose-david-alvarez-1202750316/
Come on it's a give and take thing between Black Americans and Hispanics. Low rider culture and a lot of shit of stuff found in Black Hip-hop culture, especially in places like Miami, LA, and New York, comes from Hispanic cultures.
The number the OP is quoting is from our national census.
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Okay? But the actors working in Hollywood aren't all American. So it's not 1:1. I don't see why Spanish people shouldn't count as Hispanic representation in Hollywood films. That doesn't make sense. They literally do in everything else.
I don't understand how anyone could think this. There is actually data saying we are not represented fairly.
Because most of them are fucking white.
Let's get real. When people ask for Latino representation they're asking for Mestizo representation not some white people from the country that colonized our land.
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Can't forget Ritchie Valens either.
I can't speak to the numbers. Just off what I see. I don't watch every movie.
I'm Hispanic too and I feel they are not. Who is right? If that's all there was to it then it's just emotion versus emotion.
Buuuut the data backs me up so I'm objectively right and your opinion is wrong
Ok. Feel better? All I can point out is my opinion. I'm not trying to snuff out others opinions. Sheesh.