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That white truck on top of the semi's is truly heartbreaking.
Unfortunuately, h e might have been one of the more luckier ones.
That looked survivable, the bed took all the energy and the cab wasn't really compromised. Being flipped up out of the crumple zone of all those 18 wheelers might have saved them.
Black ice can fuck you up even if you have studded tires and I'm going to bet that no one there has them.
As I understand it, Semi's, because of the amount of wheels, height and weight, have little problem during heavy downpours. They might have more of a problem on their hand if they have to drive slow in it.
But yeah, it's a normal thing to have them moving at standard highway speeds while I'm struggling to not hydroplane or see the vehicles in front of me.
Hindsight and all that, but the lane where people were creeping along filming should have stopped and gone to the barrier to pull people over to the "safe" side. Maybe. I just couldn't imagine being stuck in the car with no control over more traffic just slamming into me.
Hmm that would be a great scenario, I guess it just looks way worse than it could be.
That rental van that got completely crushed in between other cars, that one looks so bad.
Because people are aholes when it comes to driving. For example when it comes to train track crossing I will slow down a bit instead of going full speed and the person behind will honk and pass me as so as we cross the tracks.
Lol. I definitely don't tailgate, I'm if anything quite an overcautious driver, owing in part to having got my license unusually late in life. Cars coming to an abrupt stop, that's gonna be tough to avoid at highway speeds. This pileup isn't all a bunch of tailgaters.
Why would you drive that close to someone in icy conditions?!
I live in the Bay Area. Last January I had to go to Texas for work-and it was very relaxing driving around in Texas compared to the Bay Area.
We have some insanely selfish drivers with absolutely horrible driving IQ.
It literally feels like a lot of drivers were taught to drive by playing GTA.
This is what you said: "When I'm driving, seems like the window for what I can see ahead of me in my own lane is maybe two cars tops."
You are following too closely.
I bet it started because people follow too closely (especially given the conditions) when driving at highway speeds.
I'm normally a pretty fast driver on highways, but I don't fuck around with snow/ice. If I don't feel like I have 100% control or 100% stopping time, I'm not driving at 100% speed.
Even here in MA there's an uptick in bad accidents in the winter weather. And lots of people refuse to turn on their lights for whatever reason.
Even here in MA there's an uptick in bad accidents in the winter weather. And lots of people refuse to turn on their lights for whatever reason.
as it should.
I can't wait to see the videos of some new yorker and bonstonian that the news found and they'll be like "i DoNt KnOw WhAt ThE bIg DeAl is, iTs JuSt a LiTtLe SnOw/IcE tHiS iS NuThIn'"
completely ignoring that we dont keep snow plows, or salt/sand trucks and no one has snow tires or chains. Just fucking annoying, i mean they're in this thread too.
It's not even about following that close. Someone may have spun out and even if the person behind them had a good distance, they might not have been able to avoid without themselves spinning out.
The road was covered in black ice. People obviously didn't realize how bad it was until it was too late.
Look at how much the tires are spinning on the car next to the camera at around the :30 mark in this video.
This would be nice but often as soon as there is more than a car's distance between you, someone else will slot right in and you're right back where you started.
That snow from earlier this week knocked about 4-5 cars off the road for my 30 minute commute back home. I Iust bought new tires, so I've been driving a bit faster, but generally will stay in my lane and ride it out.
Had some idiot in a big fan swerving and trying to pass people on the right. Saw him lose control and correct himself, but was right back at it within seconds.
Not necessarily. For one, on these long Texas highways, black ice can sneak up on you. One stretch might not have it when you all of a sudden pass onto a stretch that does. And since it's black ice, you don't notice it until you're on it and it's too late.
You can just slow down a bit in that case and stay in a slower lane. There is no excuse for consistently following too close. It's called being a defensive driver.
So accidents like this are 100% not preventable and nobody could have done anything to prevent it. Gotcha.
I agree, im just saying that nomatter how defensive you are, some things are out of your control.
What are you saying about the preventability of this accident then?
It's terrifying o_o.
I guess I learned today that the best thing to do if you HAVE to go out, is to take side streets? At least in theory people won't be going over 40 mph...?
A lot of people don't know this or soon forget after they pass the reading part of the drivers test. It takes about 80ft going 30mph for a car to come to a complete stop when you pressed on the brake on a normal day with normal tires and working brakes and the distance increases almost exponentially as the speed increases. Without any traction and grip in the case of rain or snow you are going for a long time before you stop or something stops you like a pileup.
I mean...I get that this isnt "normal" weather for the Texas area but like damn...does nobody have any common sense? There is not having experience driving in inclement weather like this and then there is just being ignorant and trying to defy the laws of physics. It's so senseless that this happened on this scale.
Jesus fucking Christ. That's unfathomably terrible. I hope most of those injured can recover.
I know icy conditions are a bit foreign for Texan drivers but this is just insane. Stay safe everyone.
Pretty much. Tons of people in vehicles think they are immortal and don't know how to drive defensively.
I'm saying that you can be careful, but in conditions like that some thing are just out of your control. The best option is to not go out in these conditions, but we live in a state where the weather changes rapidly and in a crazy manner and this stuff can literally happen while you're out driving. Of course driving safe will help, but if there's a slick patch and you spin out, the next car would have to be pretty far back and not have to make quick adjustments themselves to compensate. It's a shit situation no matter what.
This is the ideal, but as someone who learned to drive in DFW, there's not really such a thing as a slower lane and people absolutely will keep slotting in every time you try to create space. It's near impossible to effectively be a defensive driver when everyone around you drives as aggressively as people in DFW do, and driving instructors there will tell you the same thing. The best thing to do in these conditions is stay home.
Semi drivers in my experience are the most irresponsible people on the road when the conditions are worst. The will pass you at probably twice the safe speed during the worst rainstorms or snowstorms, blowing crazy amounts of water or snow at you when you can already barely see what's ahead of you. It's pretty much homicidal behavior, and I doubt they are not aware of it.
I wonder if there were any reported warnings that there was/could be ice on the roads.
I agree. Also, there need to be steep and enforced fines for driving like that if the government wants to reduce vehicle injuries and deaths.
Folks in this thread who live up north have no concept of living in a state that sees snow and ice once a decade perhaps.
You don't know any better because you literally don't know any better.
I know some folks from Chicago and Toledo who now live in Texas who don't drive on these days.
The joke from King of the Hill wasn't an exaggeration.
You don't know any better because you literally don't know any better.
I know some folks from Chicago and Toledo who now live in Texas who don't drive on these days.
The joke from King of the Hill wasn't an exaggeration.
Holy fuck those videos
Legit yelled out in shock watching the collisions.
RIP to the victims š
Legit yelled out in shock watching the collisions.
RIP to the victims š
