The much larger pileup in the foreground is the semi that flipped that truck. The smaller accident behind it is the Fed Ex Truck that plowed over several vehicles. Crazy
Don't tail-gate and you won't have that problem.When I'm driving, seems like the window for what I can see ahead of me in my own lane is maybe two cars tops. If the first of those two suddenly stopped moving, not just slowed considerably but literally stopped entirely, I think it would be very difficult to avoid an accident.
cant stop or slow down, icy roads.Why are they just slamming into them? Don't they see at all the cars infront or is it that fucking slippery? If it is why keep going at those speeds...?
It's probably black ice. Because once you hit it and if the road is slippery there is no stopping you, the momentum of the speed you were driving at will take over. And on a highway like that where there is no grass just cement walls, it is a recipe for a major disaster.
Black ice is no joke!
As I understand it, Semi's, because of the amount of wheels, height and weight, have little problem during heavy downpours. They might have more of a problem on their hand if they have to drive slow in it.I do a lot of interstate travel, most semi drivers just don't give a fuck about cars around them. I got stuck in a massive downpour once at night. I was doing like 30 MPH in the right lane and semis kept passing me doing 60+ throwing even more water on to my windshield, I was legit shook.
This is a major freeway. I dont believe there is anywhere you can go. Also this is the center barricaded lane which I believe is a HOV lane so there just isnt anywhere to go. It was also like 20 degrees with freezing rain, doubt many people are even thinking about getting out of their car at this point.
On black ice it's really not that simple.
The crash at 1:10 is absolutely brutal. Screw that. This is why I never go to work in icy weather anymore. Learned my lesson years ago.
Unfortunuately, h e might have been one of the more luckier ones.
That looked survivable, the bed took all the energy and the cab wasn't really compromised. Being flipped up out of the crumple zone of all those 18 wheelers might have saved them.
Because people are aholes when it comes to driving. For example when it comes to train track crossing I will slow down a bit instead of going full speed and the person behind will honk and pass me as so as we cross the tracks.Even under normal conditions people drive in TX like they have a death wish. I will never understand it.
Yup, i used to live in NY before i moved down south and you can be chest high deep in snow and you still had to dig your car out and go about your business. It is a whole different type of snow down south, more like ice and frozen road rather than snow and they are ill-equipped to deal with that in terms of salting trucks and snow plows so for the most part everything shuts down. I can't tell you the amount of accidents i see on the highway after a rain fall or iced over road. I thought i was a careful driver and would never end up in that situation until i did through no fault of my own.
Lol. I definitely don't tailgate, I'm if anything quite an overcautious driver, owing in part to having got my license unusually late in life. Cars coming to an abrupt stop, that's gonna be tough to avoid at highway speeds. This pileup isn't all a bunch of tailgaters.
Why would you drive that close to someone in icy conditions?!
I live in the Bay Area. Last January I had to go to Texas for work-and it was very relaxing driving around in Texas compared to the Bay Area.Even under normal conditions people drive in TX like they have a death wish. I will never understand it.
We have some insanely selfish drivers with absolutely horrible driving IQ.Even under normal conditions people drive in TX like they have a death wish. I will never understand it.
This is what you said: "When I'm driving, seems like the window for what I can see ahead of me in my own lane is maybe two cars tops."Lol. I definitely don't tailgate, I'm if anything quite an overcautious driver, owing in part to having got my license unusually late in life. Cars coming to an abrupt stop, that's gonna be tough to avoid at highway speeds. This pileup isn't all a bunch of tailgaters.
as it should.We literally don't. We don't salt the roads or anything like that. It's easier to just shut down. Hell, it's supposed to get down into the teens where I'm at on Monday, with snow. Shit's straight up gonna close.
It's not even about following that close. Someone may have spun out and even if the person behind them had a good distance, they might not have been able to avoid without themselves spinning out.
Why are they just slamming into them? Don't they see at all the cars infront or is it that fucking slippery? If it is why keep going at those speeds...?
That means they were driving too fast for the conditions!It's not even about following that close. Someone may have spun out and even if the person behind them had a good distance, they might not have been able to avoid without themselves spinning out.
That snow from earlier this week knocked about 4-5 cars off the road for my 30 minute commute back home. I Iust bought new tires, so I've been driving a bit faster, but generally will stay in my lane and ride it out.I'm normally a pretty fast driver on highways, but I don't fuck around with snow/ice. If I don't feel like I have 100% control or 100% stopping time, I'm not driving at 100% speed.
Even here in MA there's an uptick in bad accidents in the winter weather. And lots of people refuse to turn on their lights for whatever reason.
Not necessarily. For one, on these long Texas highways, black ice can sneak up on you. One stretch might not have it when you all of a sudden pass onto a stretch that does. And since it's black ice, you don't notice it until you're on it and it's too late.
You can just slow down a bit in that case and stay in a slower lane. There is no excuse for consistently following too close. It's called being a defensive driver.This would be nice but often as soon as there is more than a car's distance between you, someone else will slot right in and you're right back where you started.
So accidents like this are 100% not preventable and nobody could have done anything to prevent it. Gotcha.Not necessarily. For one, on these long Texas highways, black ice can sneak up on you. One stretch might not have it when you all of a sudden pass onto a stretch that does. And since it's black ice, you don't notice it until you're on it and it's too late.
You can just slow down a bit in that case and stay in a slower lane. There is no excuse for consistently following too close. It's called being a defensive driver.
I didn't even remotely say thatSo accidents like this are 100% not preventable and nobody could have done anything to prevent it. Gotcha.
What are you saying about the preventability of this accident then?
So accidents like this are 100% not preventable and nobody could have done anything to prevent it. Gotcha.
A lot of people don't know this or soon forget after they pass the reading part of the drivers test. It takes about 80ft going 30mph for a car to come to a complete stop when you pressed on the brake on a normal day with normal tires and working brakes and the distance increases almost exponentially as the speed increases. Without any traction and grip in the case of rain or snow you are going for a long time before you stop or something stops you like a pileup.Why are they just slamming into them? Don't they see at all the cars infront or is it that fucking slippery? If it is why keep going at those speeds...?
Jesus fucking Christ. That's unfathomably terrible. I hope most of those injured can recover.The crash at 1:10 is absolutely brutal. Screw that. This is why I never go to work in icy weather anymore. Learned my lesson years ago.
Pretty much. Tons of people in vehicles think they are immortal and don't know how to drive defensively.It's terrifying o_o.
I guess I learned today that the best thing to do if you HAVE to go out, is to take side streets? At least in theory people won't be going over 40 mph...?
I'm saying that you can be careful, but in conditions like that some thing are just out of your control. The best option is to not go out in these conditions, but we live in a state where the weather changes rapidly and in a crazy manner and this stuff can literally happen while you're out driving. Of course driving safe will help, but if there's a slick patch and you spin out, the next car would have to be pretty far back and not have to make quick adjustments themselves to compensate. It's a shit situation no matter what.What are you saying about the preventability of this accident then?
You can just slow down a bit in that case and stay in a slower lane. There is no excuse for consistently following too close. It's called being a defensive driver.
Damn, that is one of my fears. A car catching on fire.
Semi drivers in my experience are the most irresponsible people on the road when the conditions are worst. The will pass you at probably twice the safe speed during the worst rainstorms or snowstorms, blowing crazy amounts of water or snow at you when you can already barely see what's ahead of you. It's pretty much homicidal behavior, and I doubt they are not aware of it.Feel bad for the truck drivers who know they can't stop and have to basically choose where to crash.
I wonder if there were any reported warnings that there was/could be ice on the roads.I'm saying that you can be careful, but in conditions like that some thing are just out of your control. The best option is to not go out in these conditions, but we live in a state where the weather changes rapidly and in a crazy manner and this stuff can literally happen while you're out driving. Of course driving safe will help, but if there's a slick patch and you spin out, the next car would have to be pretty far back and not have to make quick adjustments themselves to compensate. It's a shit situation no matter what.
I agree. Also, there need to be steep and enforced fines for driving like that if the government wants to reduce vehicle injuries and deaths.This is the ideal, but as someone who learned to drive in DFW, there's not really such a thing as a slower lane and people absolutely will keep slotting in every time you try to create space. It's near impossible to effectively be a defensive driver when everyone around you drives as aggressively as people in DFW do, and driving instructors there will tell you the same thing. The best thing to do in these conditions is stay home.