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Update
Five Dead, Dozens injured:
Not necessarily. We have a heat dome due to our population density that affects weather patterns (source I live in dfw)
To be fair, Ice is awful everywhere. Up north we just have piles of salt trucks ready to go for any sort of ice and/or snow. Boston area it's exceedingly rare we get any ice on the main roads- the trucks pre-salt and it never has a chance to form. Side roads do get some but you'd be doing like 30 on those and not 80.
No vehicle does well on ice unless you're sporting tire gear that's not legal on most roads.
No vehicle does well on ice unless you're sporting tire gear that's not legal on most roads.
We get snow here regularly and you still have the annual population of:
"It won't happen to me"
or
"Yeah well, I have a 4WD vehicle now so Im immune to ice"
people causing wrecks each winter. I cannot even imagine how bad it must be in places where people just dont have the experience to realize how bad it is.
"It won't happen to me"
or
"Yeah well, I have a 4WD vehicle now so Im immune to ice"
people causing wrecks each winter. I cannot even imagine how bad it must be in places where people just dont have the experience to realize how bad it is.
Damn.
For those that live there, does Texas have salt trucks? If the weather is supposed to get worse, hopefully they have a plan to handle it.
If it's snowy or icy, don't drive at full speed and don't slam your brakes. It's not a 100% foolproof solution, but it seems like one that no one is aware of.
I'd saying growing up I saw a lot more "snow" in Garland than I ever have in Austin.
They do to an extent, but it doesn't help when the rain just washes it all away.
Fuck. Those pictures are horrifying. I live in the north east and know how to drive in snow. But there isn't really any rules for ice other than just drive slower and slow down sooner (unfortunately there is always some asshole on the road) It doesn't really ice here very often. If anything, we get a rain storm and then temps drop at night and everything turns into a sheet of ice.
Yeah it is hard to see what vehicles they are through the debris. Thankfully these multi-vehicle pile-ups are a lot rarer than they seemed to be years ago. Fog seemed to be a bigger problem years ago in the UK than it is these days.
You don't need infrastructure. You need tougher licensing laws do these idiots drive at 30mph during bad conditions rather than "going slow" at 70.
Yes but several fronts often "break up" before hitting DFW all the time. I have seen Pete Delkus discuss this on twitter/tv several times. (source: I grew up in Garland, hello former neighbor!)
Damn, that's a shame.
Wish people would drive more carefully in winter conditions. Hell, stay home if you can.
Wish people would drive more carefully in winter conditions. Hell, stay home if you can.
I moved from Minnesota to Dallas back in the late 90s.. Any tiny amount of ice on the roads meant chaos.. they just do not know how to drive on bad roads. Plus of course they do not have the equipment to pre treat the roads. My thoughts are with everyone involved.. some horrible pictures :(
Terrible and horrifying. As a DFW native, ice doesn't mix well with Texas' already terrible drivers. Going 5 over the limit here is considered "slow"
Omg, is this in one of those express toll lanes? The space in those is so limited, pile ups like this are one of my biggest fears with those lanes.:no_upscale()/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/dmn/GAHAWHWMPBFX7P3PQNGMDUEPVU.jpg)
Another view of the tweet in the OP.
Crazy thing, it looks like in the tweet pic the flow of traffic was from right to left, but in reality all of those cars seemed to have spun around the the true flow of traffic is left to right.
We have a very modest amount of salt/sand get put down in key areas like bridges and portions of highways, but we don't have a massive fleet of trucks standing by for days like these.
In Houston... Everyone stay safe this weekend and next week. Monday and Tuesday will be something on the roads so stay in if you can.
Texans are barely used to rain, but I agree it's not surprising in the least.
I go directly next to it in the first 5 minutes or so of my commute. It basically happened when I left my house or shortly before.
Now I'm sitting in my office clear across town waiting for the temperature to get above freezing so I can go back the other way on Parmer.
My sisters best friend is one of those people that can't drive in the rain. She has hydroplaned and crashed at least 3 vehicles.
At what point do you realize you can't drive 80mph on the highway in an absolute downpour??
She just goes full tilt no matter what the weather 🤦‍♂️ .
The crash at 1:10 is absolutely brutal. Screw that. This is why I never go to work in icy weather anymore. Learned my lesson years ago.
As a fellow southerner this mostly a meme now, but some people in the South do that for kicks I think, and there are some that literally buy their food daily and have to get something JUST to make it through like 2-4 days 🤣 .
You're not far from me in the South, so you know how people struggle with like 24 hours of snow.
I had to rush to get my son the other day right when the heavy flurries hit, 40 minute round trip. Stuff got thicc quick. Thankfully I drive a heavy Explorer, but my traction control was lighting up once I was almost back to our house. Other cars were having to stop or running off the road. I made it back fine taking it easy. A lot of small cars and trucks ended up stuck.
I remember a few years back we had heavy snow for like 3 days and people were trying to get snow chains and shockingly no one stocks them in southern georgia.
Yeah, Texas is not prepared for icy conditions (to be fair, no one can drive on ice). Because temps are not consistently low enough even if they *do* salt the roads the night before it usually rains heavily and gets rid of the salt before the freeze/sleet hits.
I35 is doubly bad because of the number of 18 wheelers that drive on it.
I35 is doubly bad because of the number of 18 wheelers that drive on it.
I now live in California. Texans are INFINITY times better than Californians in the rain so this might be nostalgia talking.
I can't speak to Texas here, but when we rarely have like a 30 or 40 or 100 car pileup here in MI, it's because there is a lot of snow coming down and visibility is poor, but people haven't slowed down enough to make up for the visibility. Especially semis and large trucks with a lot of momentum.
Also, some of them around large curves where trees block visibility around the curve until it is too late.
So there's a chain reaction of vehicles seeing the pileup too late to stop as they are going too fast to come to a complete halt. I.E. visibility distance is shorter than stopping distance.
A bunch of snow is kinda like fog where you can't see very far in front of you.
The visibility doesn't look that bad in the pics/videos here, but I could be wrong.
I think I just watched someone die. There was a car between that white pick up and the semi wasn't there? Awful.
HOLY SHIT dude this is insane :O
Another view of the tweet in the OP.
Crazy thing, it looks like in the tweet pic the flow of traffic was from right to left, but in reality all of those cars seemed to have spun around the the true flow of traffic is left to right.
Holy shit. That is truly terrifying to look at.
This shit is horrible. Those poor people.
I live near Fort Worth and saw several wrecked cars on my way to work. One pickup truck was on top of a guard rail and had done a 270 degree turn and had apparently caught fire because it was totally singed.
I was low-key agitated that my boss asked me to come in this morning.
I was low-key agitated that my boss asked me to come in this morning.
Threw those other cars through the air like they were footballs.
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When I'm driving, seems like the window for what I can see ahead of me in my own lane is maybe two cars tops. If the first of those two suddenly stopped moving, not just slowed considerably but literally stopped entirely, I think it would be very difficult to avoid an accident.
Damn, how much warning do weather people give about not being able to drive properly on icy roads? I'm used to it being from the northeast but I feel like there needs to be more warnings about this, especially as climate change fucks up weather in a variety of directions all over the place.