“Very soon,” Trump on when the US economy will reopen. Comments come as leaders of UK and Canada instate new sweeping measures and restrictions

[SolidSnakex]

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Not that they care, but any death statistic isn't factoring in hospitals being swamped to a point where they have to turn away people who need to be there. Because of that it's useless to use those statistics in a scenario where you just want people to be out and about so that Wall Street is ok. And that's just for COVID-19. It's not like other health problems or life threatening situations have just stopped because of this virus.

 

[Scuffed]

As soon as there are mass deaths, Doctors and nurses start getting sick and the Hospitals collapse everyone that has not been taking this seriously will freak the fuck out and markets will crash. At least with a shutdown there is some control over the situation by allowing places to still operate but just not gather. If they open everything up tanking is inevitable.

 

[meowdi gras]

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You just go do that, Jesse.

 

[thefit]

What is the point of opening up when everybody else in the world is going to remain closed? Trump is such a moron.

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Right now its just a right wing thought bubble to see if they can pressure states to listen but nothing else. You can't just demand state governors place their citizens in harms way and destroy their hospitals for the sake of wall street. He's not going to win this argument in an interconnected global economy that's going through the same thing.

 

[weekev]

As soon as there are mass deaths, Doctors and nurses start getting sick and the Hospitals collapse everyone that has not been taking this seriously will freak the fuck out and markets will crash. At least with a shutdown there is some control over the situation by allowing places to still operate but just not gather. If they open everything up tanking is inevitable.

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Yup, the economy is going to tank regardless of what route is taken. One route will save thousands if not millions of lives, the other route means the economy will be propped up for a few weeks whilst the virus takes hold and starts to decimate the population.

 

[EdibleKnife]

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I'm glad the guest didn't totally cower to the spin that idiot was trying to sling. I would like it more if more experts just called this what it really is though and state that this tactic of ending the restrictions is just a call by the president to unnecessarily put people at risk of illness or death and is nothing but inhumanity under the guise of pragmatism. News and experts in general need to stop pussy footing around this and just make it plain that the GOP and Trump are telling the American people that their lives and the lives of their loved ones matter less to them than the health of Wall Street.

Not that they care, but any death statistic isn't factoring in hospitals being swamped to a point where they have to turn away people who need to be there. Because of that it's useless to use those statistics in a scenario where you just want people to be out and about so that Wall Street is ok. And that's just for COVID-19. It's not like other health problems or life threatening situations have just stopped because of this virus.

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Right? They want to act like 1% is the equivalent of the guest limit for an Olive Garden but that 1% is literally clogging hospitals and draining tonnes of essential medical supplies.

 

[weekev]

Thought this was a good graphic from BBC news. Someone should show Trump because its a pretty picture instead of words which are hard for him to understand.

 

[Arkanim94]

Thought this was a good graphic from BBC news. Someone should show Trump because its a pretty picture instead of words which are hard for him to understand.

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"so those are 406 that can no longer get the virus and can get back to work? I am the best genius ever"

 

[weekev]

"so those are 406 that can no longer get the virus and can get back to work? I am the best genius ever"

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And only 4 of them are dead!

 

[SolidSnakex]

Someone pointed out that in Lynchburg, where Liberty is based, there's only one ICU hospital.

 

[PHOENIXZERO]

I could've sworn I saw this human sacrifices for the economy thing in a South Park episode.

 

[MasterYoshi]

Someone pointed out that in Lynchburg, where Liberty is based, there's only one ICU hospital.

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Give me liberty and give me death.

 

[Psychotext]

Thought this was a good graphic from BBC news. Someone should show Trump because its a pretty picture instead of words which are hard for him to understand.

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Seems to be missing the dollar value and the stock tracker... sorry, it's meaningless.

 

[PhilosopherDirtBike]

So basically, Trump tells everyone to go back to work next week, they'll probably stop delivering tests, we'll have no way of quantifying how bad it's gotten other than reports of overloaded hospitals which Trump and his sycophants will quickly dismiss as "fake news". What a country.

 

[sapien85]

Only 1% of the population is over 3 million dead. Meanwhile the US has been at war for 20 years cause of 3000 dead on 9/11 but 3 million dead is cool to Republicans now.

 

[prophetvx]

Thought this was a good graphic from BBC news. Someone should show Trump because its a pretty picture instead of words which are hard for him to understand.

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Even this scale doesn't do it justice, people really can't get their head around exponentials. Using these figures at 10 layers of infection
2.5^10 = 9,536
1.25^10 = 9.3

Using the pretty common value of infecting 3 people
3^10 = 59049

Practicing social distancing could prevent a single person from infecting 60,000 people or more.

 

[Grain Silo]

My city has only just detected community spread of the virus and though I'm still working (at reduced hours) everyone's on edge and expecting to shut down any day now. The idea of going back to business-as-usual just as the virus drops the hammer on my community seems unthinkable.

But then again Donald Trump is President.

 

[weekev]

Even this scale doesn't do it justice, people really can't get their head around exponentials. Using these figures at 10 layers of infection
2.5^10 = 9,536
1.25^10 = 9.3

Using the pretty common value of infecting 3 people
3^10 = 59049

Practicing social distancing could prevent a single person from infecting 60,000 people or more.

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I think it's 2.5 people every 5 days hence the scale. Keep in mind that graphic is only 1 persons impact over 30 days. This shit will be going on for months and if Trump gets his way, a significantly large portion of the American public is going to be wiped out. This is beyond a crisis now.

 

[Deleted member 30681]

boy are we going to have a lot more NYCs if this is the trajectory the country is moving in.

 

[Deleted member 18379]

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People were right, this might just be Darwin at work. By all means, if anyone is willing to die over green paper that humanity has instilled value in, they are no more intelligent than the cave men who rejected fire and died of pneumonia alone in the woods.

 

[Templeusox]

States bidding against each other for PPE is the most bullshit American thing ever.

Alexa, what's the most counterproductive thing we could be doing during an international pandemic?

 

[ArrogantBastard]

Someone pointed out that in Lynchburg, where Liberty is based, there's only one ICU hospital.

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Shit like this is crazy. Yall some crazy motherfuckers. I would say I'm shocked, but I'm really not; we always knew they weren't pro-life.

 

[Deleted member 2809]

Only 1% of the population is over 3 million dead. Meanwhile the US has been at war for 20 years cause of 3000 dead on 9/11 but 3 million dead is cool to Republicans now.

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The virus doesn't have oil

 

[entremet]

Someone pointed out that in Lynchburg, where Liberty is based, there's only one ICU hospital.

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Students and faculty should not go. He's insane.

 

[maxxpower]

God I hope Cali tells him to fuck off. I certainly don't want to get this shit.

 

[Parch]

The point is simply inflating (or rather maintaining) Trump's own out of control ego and the vague ego that drives American Exceptionalism that poisons US society:

"While other countries cowered & crippled themselves in the face of adversity, we overcame this virus through grit, determination, and commitment to the capitalist ideal! We don't need to cooperate with the global community when we can weather even the end times without any allies! The Trump administration has shown how to pull through a crisis without having to rely on things like the advice of scientists and medical experts! And the GOP has shown we don't have to resort to evil socialist ideals like free healthcare and/or providing safety nets for American citizens to keep our country running powerfully!"

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Fueled by american arrogance. His fanbase will eat this up. It's disturbing to the rest of the world that it involves hundreds of thousands of americans, and terrifying that what america does will affect the rest of the world.

 

[Kasai]

My work is giving the option to stay home and still pull a check.

They're giving anyone staying on a $3 raise though.

I might not come back to work on Monday

 

[Neo C.]

Faschism is a death cult. It is known. The faschist regime can only survive when they can constantly blame, threaten or kill groups of people. After several groups of minorities it's time for the retirees to go away for the greatness of the nation!

 

[Stinkles]

With a hundred years and a laboratory filled with the finest scientists and writers and dreamers in history you could not create a more specifically incompetent and unsuitable leader for this crisis.

The blood on this man's hands after this is done may not reach the levels of W. Bush's catastrophic adventure in Iraq- but the reasons for it will be much more venal and pathetic than a spoiled son's desire for spectacular revenge.

and in this case the "9/11" ignition point was decades of diminishing mental returns from one of the worst human beings ever to escape being drowned at birth.

the man has done everything he could to disqualify himself from every position north of leprous arse wiper — and the GOP's nexus of demographic irrelevance and full throated commitment to corruption and bigotry is the perfect storm that sunk this ship.

When we emerge from this we had better implement a democratic colonic or we'll simply stumble into the same problem with a different face. November is the most important chance we'll ever be given. If the country votes at a level that even mildly reflects the seriousness of the moment then we have a chance to fix these foundations. If not, then we simply didn't deserve that opportunity.

anyone who stays home that day is complicit. And downballot is vital too.

 

[Pwnz]

He's totally willing to sacrifice the lives of 3 million US citizens that aren't him.

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It's only 1008x as many people that died during 911. You know, balance.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Students and faculty should not go. He's insane.

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Looking at the article it mentions those working there wouldn't have to return if they have a valid health exemption. So, it looks like the others are required, and i'd guess they'd be fired and replaced if they don't return.

 

[entremet]

With a hundred years and a laboratory filled with the finest scientists and writers and dreamers in history you could not create a more specifically incompetent and unsuitable leader for this crisis.

The blood on this man's hands after this is done may not reach the levels of W. Bush's catastrophic adventure in Iraq- but the reasons for it will be much more venal and pathetic than a spoiled son's desire for spectacular revenge.

and in this case the "9/11" ignition point was decades of diminishing mental returns from one of the worst human beings ever to escape being drowned at birth.

the man has done everything he could to disqualify himself from every position north of leprous arse wiper — and the GOP's nexus of demographic irrelevance and full throated commitment to corruption and bigotry is the perfect storm that sunk this ship.

When we emerge from this we had better implement a democratic colonic or we'll simply stumble into the same problem with a different face. November is the most important chance we'll ever be given. If the country votes at a level that even mildly reflects the seriousness of the moment then we have a chance to fix these foundations. If not, then we simply didn't deserve that opportunity.

anyone who stays home that day is complicit. And downballot is vital too.

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The fact that America elected a sociopathic reality star sure is something as well.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

boy are we going to have a lot more NYCs if this is the trajectory the country is moving in.

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most people ignoring guidelines think NYC is doing just fine

 

[zulux21]

Fueled by american arrogance. His fanbase will eat this up. It's disturbing to the rest of the world that it involves hundreds of thousands of americans, and terrifying that what america does will affect the rest of the world.

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Everywhere in the world needs to come together and ban all travel to and from the United States, TODAY!
No one should let the American idiots travel to their country and potentially spread the virus until after a vaccine is found.
The US needs a giant FU from the world right now. And I say this as an American that was hoping to visit Japan next spring (though with the olympics delayed until next year I would be targeting 2022 anyway)

 

[cakely]

EDIT: Yeah, sorry, this isn't the place for jokes.

Obviously, Liberty University shouldn't be convening classes.

 

[raYne_07]

Only 1% of the population is over 3 million dead. Meanwhile the US has been at war for 20 years cause of 3000 dead on 9/11 but 3 million dead is cool to Republicans now.

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How dare you bring logic into this!

 

[ZedLilIndPum]

Fuck, we're stopping this by Easter, aren't we. The Great American Resurrection.

 

[EdibleKnife]

Looking at the article it mentions those working there wouldn't have to return if they have a valid health exemption. So, it looks like the others are required, and i'd guess they'd be fired and replaced if they don't return.

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Hoping the university buckles and ruins that slug farm known as the Falwell family. They can fire employees and drop all the students but I doubt they'll find the mass of replacements they need quickly since I doubt people will be hunting to attend a new job or school right this moment.

 

[Beer Monkey]

I'll be getting a doctor's note and refusing to work in the office if they try to call me back in. Full stop.

 

[Deleted member 16657]

if Trump says ok everyone go back to work and the governors say fuck you we're keeping it closed does anything change?

 

[Nordic4tKnight]

if Trump says ok everyone go back to work and the governors say fuck you we're keeping it closed does anything change?

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No

 

[iyox]

Only 1% of the population is over 3 million dead. Meanwhile the US has been at war for 20 years cause of 3000 dead on 9/11 but 3 million dead is cool to Republicans now.

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1% is the amount that will succumb even with all medical intervention. By not maintaining social distancing/lock down the impact will be much worse. The challenge has been perverted to "we are locking down to save that 1%", which isn't really the reason. We are hoping only 1%, but by overloading the hospitals we could see a much larger percentage perish.

 

[maxxpower]

This shit pisses me off beyond belief. It's not just the millions dying from this. It's the many doctors and nurses that will die from being exposed and overworked. It's the millions that will die from other causes because the hospitals are overwhelmed.

Fuck this piece of shit country.

 

[zulux21]

if Trump says ok everyone go back to work and the governors say fuck you we're keeping it closed does anything change?

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In the blue states... not really.
in the red states... most likely.

and the more sick there are in the red states, the more likely they are to invade the blue states to try to get medical help.

 

[ArrogantBastard]

In the blue states... not really.
in the red states... most likely.

and the more sick there are in the red states, the more likely they are to invade the blue states to try to get medical help.

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Lt. Gov of Texas is already saying we need to go back to work, that grandmothers would die to save this economy.

 

[iyox]

if Trump says ok everyone go back to work and the governors say fuck you we're keeping it closed does anything change?

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I think Trump is pushing the "open for business" narrative, not because he thinks it can open up, but rather to blame the governors locking down for the economy. It's no longer his problem because he said it's ok to open up again. Governors will have to deal with the reality and keep things locked down and safe. Trump is playing political games to remove economic blame from himself.

 

[Psychotext]

My work is giving the option to stay home and still pull a check.

They're giving anyone staying on a $3 raise though.

I might not come back to work on Monday

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Preying on desperation. Disgusting.

 

[Juryvicious]

Fuck off already. What a ignorant buffoon. Hey Americans, when the time comes next year, those of you who voted for this man, vote him out!

 

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I wouldn't be surprised if a vast majority of people supported going back to work even with this going on.
People in this country are brainwashed to value work over their own health.

 

[onadesertedisland]

1% is the amount that will succumb even with all medical intervention. By not maintaining social distancing/lock down the impact will be much worse. The challenge has been perverted to "we are locking down to save that 1%", which isn't really the reason. We are hoping only 1%, but by overloading the hospitals we could see a much larger percentage perish.

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Even half a million dead in the span of a couple months would break the country.