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Geoff

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A man believed to be responsible for hundreds of rapes has been found guilty of raping or sexually assaulting 48 men in Manchester.
Reynhard Sinaga, 36, a mature student from Indonesia, is thought by police to have abused at least 195 men over two-and-a-half years after luring them to his flat under the guise of being a "good samaritan", drugging his victims and then attacking them after they passed out.
Ian Rushton, the north-west deputy chief crown prosecutor, called Sinaga the "most prolific rapist in British legal history".
He was proved to have committed 159 offences, including 136 rapes, which he filmed on two mobile phones. Police have yet to identify at least 70 of his victims.
On Monday, Sinaga was sentenced to life in prison with a minimum term of 30 years, bringing a two-year media blackout to an end at the conclusion of his fourth trial.


Amazing he managed to rape so many men. I guess some/most of them didn't even know for sure what had happened.
 

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Heard about this one on the radio. It's insane what people can still get away with and thirty years is nowhere near enough of a sentence. Someone like that should never be allowed out again.
 

AuthenticM

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Student who doesn't enter the post secondary stream right after high school. For example, I went to college at 30, making me a mature student.
A student who begins university later in life. Mid twenties onwards I guess.
For some dumb ass reason, you're a "mature student" here if you're over the age of 21 (I think).
That's such a weird term. I guess I'm not opposed to differentiating much older students from those who enter university straight out of highschool, but man, they need to find a better term. "Mature student" sounds porny.

In any case, yeah, he needs to stay in prison for a long time.
 

plagiarize

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Oct 25, 2017
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I went to University right where all this happened. He lived right near the building where I studied Chemistry. It's horrifying seeing things like this from afar. I'm glad he is behind bars.
 

EDebs1916

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User Banned (2 Months): Victim Blaming Rhetoric Surrounding Sexual Assault
How did none of these men report it earlier if he was stealing phones? They were drunk outside a club and then wake up next the day in a stranger's appointment without their phone or wallet and they don't ask any questions?
 

Travo

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How did none of these men report it earlier if he was stealing phones? They were drunk outside a club and then wake up next the day in a stranger's appointment without their phone or wallet and they don't ask any questions?
A lot of men don't report for the same reasons women don't. They may be too afraid of not being believed or ignored. Some may be unsure of what happened and if they were actually raped. Plus, may be viewed as weak for being raped.
 
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Geoff

Geoff

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Oct 27, 2017
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How did none of these men report it earlier if he was stealing phones? They were drunk outside a club and then wake up next the day in a stranger's appointment without their phone or wallet and they don't ask any questions?

Young lads away from home for the first time, getting absolutely black-out battered. Losing your wallet and phone in those situations is par for the course. Unconscious during the rape so wouldn't remember it, albeit there must have been some soreness. Waking up in the guys flat...yeah that would be weird. But these things happen when you black out. I guess some put it down to a heavy night and chose not to think too hard about it and others had suspicions but didn't speak out due to social stigma. Hard for some straight men to admit they have been raped by another man.
 

Westbahnhof

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Oct 27, 2017
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If there is anything to reform there, I hope it works and he learns to feel regret for all the pain and suffering he has caused.
Real regret. Not saying that would absolve him of anything.
I'm glad he's locked away, at least. And a darker part of me is glad that he's young and won't die of natural causes 5 years into his sentence.
 

Kingpin Rogers

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This is why it shocks me when people say men have nothing to worry about when walking alone at night or whatever. I'm like 5,4 and super skinny, I'm very vulnerable by myself and coming across someone when I'm alone at night makes my heart race. Especially if it's multiple people. Same with getting a taxi alone, I always think they might just drive off somewhere else and kidnap or murder me since they see I'm small and probably couldn't fight back.
 

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Many of Sinaga's victims remembered him giving them a drink when they went to his flat. Some recalled being promised a "party" or simply somewhere to sleep for the night, but then had a total blackout until the following day. Only one, a 21-year-old man raped four times by Sinaga in the early hours of 21 May 2017, told the jury there was something odd about the drink he was handed.


"It looked like water but there was a solution in it, almost like salt. It wasn't as transparent as water," the man said, giving evidence via video link. "I think I said to him, 'What's this? This isn't water', and he said, 'It's water, you need to drink water'."


apparently he videotaped nearly all of them and got caught when one guy woke up and beat teh shit out of him and called the police. the police saw the videos on his phone
 

remiri

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Being a victim of rape doesn't mean your life is destroyed

Actually, yeah it does. Victims of rape's lives are forever changed for the worse after it happens. Some people never recover and will have yearly episodes around the time when it happened, or worse.

Not sure of the goal of this post, seems like you are trying to downplay the effects of rape.
 

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Actually, yeah it does. Victims of rape's lives are forever changed for the worse after it happens. Some people never recover and will have yearly episodes around the time when it happened, or worse.

Not sure of the goal of this post, seems like you are trying to downplay the effects of rape.

or they are trying to put a more positive spin on a terrible thing

because if you accept your life is destroyed where are you going to go from there mentally?

there are multiple ways to read that post
 
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Geoff

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Oct 27, 2017
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or they are trying to put a more positive spin on a terrible thing

because if you accept your life is destroyed where are you going to go from there mentally?

there are multiple ways to read that post

Yeah I read it as him saying that your life doesn't have to have been destroyed by rape. In a positive way. Like if I had been raped, I don't think I would like to think of my life from that moment onwards as 'destroyed'.
 

Siggy-P

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Eye opening that the stigma agaisnt men who are sexually assaulted is so big that he can really get away with 195 rapes before someone stands up to him.
 

T002 Tyrant

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Eye opening that the stigma agaisnt men who are sexually assaulted is so big that he can really get away with 195 rapes before someone stands up to him.

A 14-year-old rape-murder victim of Jeffery Dahama flagged down the police and Dahama said they were lovers and had an argument...The cops left, and Dahma took the boy and finished off what he started. It's awful how there's still assumptions and stigmas. Although the Dahma example had the added wtf on the fact they would leave a 14 kid with blood down his face alone with an adult because they were both gay, one would hope that part of the story would at least not happen now.
 

fleet

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Jan 2, 2019
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I hope you'll never be a victim of rape.

i don't think you are reading that post the way the poster intended

it's not being dismissive of rape, it's saying that rape victims have the opportunity to heal and live meaningful lives, despite the pain and hurt. imagine a rape victim going to see a psychologist and the psych says "well your life is destroyed so that's it for you".
 

Maledict

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Eye opening that the stigma agaisnt men who are sexually assaulted is so big that he can really get away with 195 rapes before someone stands up to him.

Its worth saying the circumstances are to blame here more than the stigma. The police acted on the first report they received.

The issue was that due to the drug almost all his victims didn't know anything had happened. Most only found out when the police arrived at their front door to tell them. This isn't one of those cases where victims come forward after the initial announcement - they prosecuted and identified the number of victims because he filmed himself raping them all.
 

Solary

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Is it normal within the gay community to lust / prize straight people over other gays? Just reading the consversation between the rapist and his unknowing friends and they seem to cherish the fact the rapist would get straight men like it was some sort of prize.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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That's such a weird term. I guess I'm not opposed to differentiating much older students from those who enter university straight out of highschool, but man, they need to find a better term. "Mature student" sounds porny.

In any case, yeah, he needs to stay in prison for a long time.
I heard on the radio that he was a student for years, had like 4 Bachelor's degrees and was going for a PhD

Good to see this animal behind bars, hopefully he'll die there
 

Aprikurt

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Read this yesterday, absolutely sickening. The way he tried to worm out of being caught too the bastard.
 

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Its worth saying the circumstances are to blame here more than the stigma. The police acted on the first report they received.

The issue was that due to the drug almost all his victims didn't know anything had happened. Most only found out when the police arrived at their front door to tell them. This isn't one of those cases where victims come forward after the initial announcement - they prosecuted and identified the number of victims because he filmed himself raping them all.
I can't even imagine being in this situation. Would I prefer to know what happened to me or live without that knowledge?
 
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Is it normal within the gay community to lust / prize straight people over other gays? Just reading the consversation between the rapist and his unknowing friends and they seem to cherish the fact the rapist would get straight men like it was some sort of prize.
It's one quote. Ask yourself if it's normal in the straight community to cherish the fact that a rapist would "get" a gay person "like it was some kind of prize"
 

Chanser

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Well he didn't give a shit, he yawned and played with his hair during the sentencing.
 

Buckle

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The defendant, who wore a knitted sweatshirt and black-rimmed glasses, smirked as he entered the dock beside two custody officers but appeared expressionless and bored for much of the sentencing. He yawned and played with his hair as harrowing evidence of the impact on his victims was read to a packed courtroom.
This guy is the definition of a monster.

195 victims and no remorse whatsoever. Put him in a cell and keep him there, theres no place among humanity for this guy.
 

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That's such a weird term. I guess I'm not opposed to differentiating much older students from those who enter university straight out of highschool, but man, they need to find a better term. "Mature student" sounds porny.

In any case, yeah, he needs to stay in prison for a long time.

I dunno if that's just more common in the UK but around here I've only heard "nontraditional student"