You MONSTER I just got it out of my head!!!!!!!!!!!
You MONSTER I just got it out of my head!!!!!!!!!!!
I wasn't into him, but now I think he was worth it just for his reaction to the dead agent burial.
The decision was 100% a Netflix thing to drive/maintain subscriptions, don't think anything otherwise.
That's the cynical take. And I'm sure there is some truth to it.
But I'm also sure there's some truth to the more positive take, which is about them wanting to release the first few episodes as soon as possible despite the massive workload making season 4 proved to be. At least, that's what the Duffer brothers said.
This is one thing people miss in the debate about splitting seasons or weekly releases. It's the opposite of what people instantly think. They think, oh they're holding the episodes from us, when the reality is the opposite. A single drop is actually when they're holding things until it's all done. Weekly or split releases means they're getting things out earlier. For example, Watchmen, Lindeloff was talking about how they weren't even finished with production on the final episodes when they were on episode 4 or so.But I'm also sure there's some truth to the more positive take, which is about them wanting to release the first few episodes as soon as possible despite the massive workload making season 4 proved to be. At least, that's what the Duffer brothers said.
Yeah I don't buy that for a second, thats spin for sure. We already waited 34 months for S4, so why would anyone care if we extended that to 36 months and release all 9 episodes in July? And no, it isn't for Emmy consideration lol.
people are gonna complain no matter what.This is one thing people miss in the debate about splitting seasons or weekly releases. It's the opposite of what people instantly think. They think, oh they're holding the episodes from us, when the reality is the opposite. A single drop is actually when they're holding things until it's all done. Weekly or split releases means they're getting things out earlier. For example, Watchmen, Lindeloff was talking about how they weren't even finished with production on the final episodes when they were on episode 4 or so.
If they kill a main character it just completely goes against everything Stranger Things stands for which is hope always wins in the end. It's an 80s homage, the main characters don't die usually in that kind of movie, it would suck if someone died like that.
These will be the last two episodes of season 4. Season 5 will be the last.
I really hope you're right but I wouldn't be shocked if one of the older kids or a parent die.
I think we've got to see the goofy parents so much (outside of Joyce) that it would suck to see even Mike and Nancy's dickhead dad die.
You do realize taste change and in the 80's chest hair was part of male sex appeal.I find this strange because what I've gathered over the years is women aren't THAT into body hair on men. Anecdotal of course.
To me this season has a very different tone and outlook than the last 3 seasons. It is paying homage to horror especially Nightmare on Elm Street and IT. In that regard, it isn't unlikely that one of the main cast does die in a "final sacrifice" sort of way.If they kill a main character it just completely goes against everything Stranger Things stands for which is hope always wins in the end. It's an 80s homage, the main characters don't die usually in that kind of movie, it would suck if someone died like that.
So the Cali team still looks to be the same as before, despite the Utah detour they're not bringing Suzie or Eden along.
If they kill a main character it just completely goes against everything Stranger Things stands for which is hope always wins in the end. It's an 80s homage, the main characters don't die usually in that kind of movie, it would suck if someone died like that.
Steve was originally planned to die back in season one. His time is ticking lol. I hope not though.
If they kill a main character it just completely goes against everything Stranger Things stands for which is hope always wins in the end. It's an 80s homage, the main characters don't die usually in that kind of movie, it would suck if someone died like that.
and Jesse Pinkman was supposed to die in BB S1. Things change lol.Steve was originally planned to die back in season one. His time is ticking lol. I hope not though.
I mean, it should've been Hopper, but that ship has sailed now. lol
I'm going to be honest, this whole Russian Prison Camp subplot has been dumb as hell in my opinion.
Agreed. Last season was the ideal time to kill Hopper off, instead we've wasted a huge chunk of this season on a sidequest that the show really, really didn't need, that takes away screentime that could've gone toward making the California arc actually feel satisfying instead of annoying and frustrating.
Yeah, like there was legit one good scene where Hopper had that heart-to-heart about the death of his wife and daughter, but weighing that against everything else with the subplot I don't think it was worth bringing him back.
Jesse Pinkman was planned to die in season one of Breaking Bad, and look how that turned out.Steve was originally planned to die back in season one. His time is ticking lol. I hope not though.
I have no idea how they are going to clear Eddie's name considering the town mob is convinced he killed that girl and are wrapped up in the Satanic Panic.
I think there will be some big payoff to Russia. There has to be. I saw some shots from the sneak peek and some of the shit they see there may make it all worth it. But they need to get back to America asap.
I'm assuming they will because otherwise three kids are gonna be on their own for however long this time skip is.
It's really only possible if they scapegoat someone else, and I think the only person it's really possible to do this with would be Jason (Chrissy's boyfriend). He was originally suspected of being involved in Chrissy's death, and then was at the site of another Vecna murder. Even with his alibi with Chrissy's murder, it's not like the townsfolk care especially about facts. There would also be some poetry in him being the one leading the charge of the satanic panic and getting turned on by the very people he's leading.
I can concoct a scenario like him stumbling upon another Vecna victim alone and then townsfolk finding him, or something like that. But he's literally the only other person I think it could be realistically all be pinned on.
What are you even talking about? I watched 4.1, and was happy to. And ill be happy to watch 4.2 and 5. My point isn't about when to watch or to wait. I'm just simply saying that the entire reason for the split season is to drive subscriptions and for nothing else. It was not a creative decision. And that's fine, but let's call a spade a spade.Well, if you don't care then nothing's stopping you from watching all 9 episodes in July.
The entire reason for holding content back in order to release it at once was also to drive subscriptions in that it was market differentiator with value. Netflix was known for binge, which was a big difference with the new digital content distribution, but that sort of thing has faded at least somewhat.What are you even talking about? I watched 4.1, and was happy to. And ill be happy to watch 4.2 and 5. My point isn't about when to watch or to wait. I'm just simply saying that the entire reason for the split season is to drive subscriptions and for nothing else. It was not a creative decision. And that's fine, but let's call a spade a spade.
What are you even talking about? I watched 4.1, and was happy to. And ill be happy to watch 4.2 and 5. My point isn't about when to watch or to wait. I'm just simply saying that the entire reason for the split season is to drive subscriptions and for nothing else. It was not a creative decision. And that's fine, but let's call a spade a spade.
When someone pointed out to me that Maya Hawke is Uma Thurman's daughter it's all I can see now.
i don't believe that was entirely it, two big reasons
1. i don't think the VFX was done for the second half by April
2. the Emmy deadline is May 31st for 2022 season, episodes have to drop by then
So they dropped what they could by May 31st and were still working on the VFX up until recently I believe for part 2.
Its a similar reason why Better Call Saul was split (also Odenkirk had a heart attack while filming episode 8 so that shut down the sets for a while).
I definitely HATE split seasons and it was maddening during the days of Breaking Bad / Mad Men but those had 6-10 month waits between seasons, I'm fine with a 6 week delay. One other reason is contractual, actors are signed to X seasons and splitting a season is a way around extending contracts.
I do hope ST season 5 moves to week to week, thats infinitely better imo but thats another thread. Its really nice reading/writing about BCS, Boys, Obi-Wan, Andor, etc week to week while I feel like the Stranger Things meta talk has almost vanished.
Steve was supposed to die when he was a one-dimensional rival for Jonathan/false love interest for Nancy, not a main character.Steve was originally planned to die back in season one. His time is ticking lol. I hope not though.
Steve was supposed to die when he was a one-dimensional rival for Jonathan/false love interest for Nancy, not a main character.
We STILL haven't seen Papa Byers in the show, and unless Joyce dies in the next two episodes, I don't think we ever will.
When someone pointed out to me that Maya Hawke is Uma Thurman's daughter it's all I can see now.
It's also important to note that in the draft of the script where Steve died early, Jonathan and Will's dad was the character who showed up at the end of S1 to surprise rescue the kids.
So as soon as they realized Steve was a main character and not death fodder, Season 1 already pivoted hard away from the original script. We STILL haven't seen Papa Byers in the show, and unless Joyce dies in the next two episodes, I don't think we ever will.
Ozark doesn't exist without Breaking Bad, and it's a vastly inferior diet version of it. If you like Ozark, you should be over the moon with Breaking Bad (and Better Call Saul)People quoting me and mentioning someone from Breaking Bad, I've never seen it so a bit off topic but, if I liked The Ozark, will I like Breaking Bad?